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To: Spiridon

Without a doubt, they are lobbying us. My point is that Americans are being lobbied with this story by those supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. I am skeptical when I see the media/DC herd shaping opinion for a quick response.

After my reply to you, I saw this at CTH and this probably best describes why I am skeptical of those using this story to set diplomatic policy for our country:

Flag #1 – Jamal Khashoggi in self-exile, worked for The Washington Post, and was hiding behind ‘residency’ in the U.S. WaPo is a notorious left-wing intelligence propaganda outlet for the most politicized elements within the U.S. intelligence apparatus.

Flag #2 – Turkey (Recep Erdogan) pushing the narrative. Erdogan is a notorious liar when it comes to his interests and a master manipulator. Turkey/Erdogan is the most openly staunch supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and has a self-interest in distracting/deflecting U.S. economic pressure from their ongoing relationship with Iran.

Flag #3 – Saudi Arabia [Mohamed Bin Salman (MbS)] has been instituting political and cultural reforms that are antithetical to the advanced objectives of the Muslim Brotherhood, Recep Erdogan (wants new Ottoman Empire), and extreme Islam.

Flag #4 – The voices behind the U.S. push to promote the Jamal Khashoggi story are all aligned in one purposeful and ideological direction. Former Obama officials including John Brennan, Samantha Power, Valerie Jarrett et al, are all pushing the story in a transparent effort to create division between the U.S. and KSA and by extension benefit their Muslim Brotherhood and Iranian allies.

Flag #5 – The left-wing, highly political, intelligence apparatus – and all DC interests are joined by the notorious right-wing members of the UniParty war machine. [Rubio, Sasse, Flake, Schumer, Menendez, et al] Together with the exact same left-wing media voices (right and left), and all the political ‘think-tanks’, who advance the DC drumbeat. Yes, the gang is all back together again in their high-brow pontification of ‘muh values‘.

Flag #6 – The story is being pushed into U.S. media outlets by a notorious Muslim Brotherhood mouthpiece, Khaled Saffur

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/14/ratcliffe-discusses-sketchy-turkish-story-surrounding-jamal-khashoggi-disappearance/


22 posted on 10/15/2018 5:03:58 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: vg0va3

Wow. That may be a bit more truth than many people want to hear. As an isolated incident (even granting the tyranny angle), this (possible) murder won’t turn the worm.

Khashoggi’s globalist pals are all about setting up NGOs and “helping the poor Arabs,” but from my perspective, as much as I despise SA (and I really hate all METs—Middle East Tyrants), supporting another Arab Spring is not in our nation’s interest.

The war in Yemen keeps two enemies occupied. Even if one is our nominal “ally,” what do we care? Women and children are dying, but it’s the fault of evil, but opposed, forces who both call a terrorist Prophet of God. The constant drumbeat to save the world will doom our country.

There are no good players in the region; no, not one. Our continued presence only corrupts more and more of our military. The Brits infatuation with Islam (and pederasty?) had the same impetus. To surround one’s self with evil is to become evil. We need to get out.


23 posted on 10/16/2018 9:56:06 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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