[Yosemitest]

Yet you offer NO PROOF and NO LINKS for your FICTITIOUS CLAIM.

Have you read this?

Wouldn't Obama Rather Talk About Where He was Born Than the Economy?

I think it's worth your time.

Also, Here's you some more sources and FACTS.
Barack Hussein is an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, pure and simple. People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,

Where's the Birth Certificate ? : The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President
Introduction, THE UNDOCUMENTED WORKER IN THE OVAL OFFICE (pages XI - XXIII).
Obama Uses Social Security Number Issued in Connecticut —
Whose Social Security Number Is Barack Obama Using?

For those of you who don't know, remember this:

The Democrats knew about this BEFORE Obama was elected in 2008!

8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to me

that the DNC knew that Obama was born in Kenya.

Read it for yourself.

What did Congress know about 'natural-born citizen'?
8 tries at eliminating requirement suggests organized strategy in place

Then look at these links.

1. June 11, 2003, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) 108th congress, H.J.Res. 59

2. Sep 3, 2003, Rep. Conyers, John Jr., (D) H.J.Res. 67

3. Feb 25, 2005, Sen. Nickles, Don (R-OK) Senate Bill 2128, counter the democrats Natural Born Citizen Act - but Defines it wrong

4. Sep 15, 2004, Rep Dana Rohrabacher (D)(R-CA46) H.J.Res 104

5. Jan 4, 2005, Rep Conyers, John Jr., H.J.Res. 2 109th Congress

6. Feb 1, 2005, Rep Rohrabacher, Dana (D) (CA-46) H.J.Res.15

7. April 14, 2005, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) (AR-2) H.J.Res. 42

8. Feb 28, 2008, Senator McCaskill, Claire (D) Attachment to a military bill Senate Bill 2678 Titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act.
DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama were cosponsors of this bill.

9. April 10, 2008, Sen McCaskill, Claire (D) (MO) Senate Res.511 passed declaring Senator John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
But it was never in question. It was cosponsored by DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.

Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!

Obama's record is hard to find.
Think about this.

"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .

Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy.
It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off.
While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial

General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."

Here's something to ponder.

I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961, shortly after BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.

Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada. She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.

The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable. BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s. No real problem!

From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was:

From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars:
Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60



Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.

If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had.
"In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.

Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.


Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.

The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.

Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.

Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.

Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.

Read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!

[GregNH]

I don't even know what your beef is. All you said was "You're wrong" and didn't tell me where I am wrong. So I just returned the favor. :)

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Re the scholarship program for African students to come study in the US, while it was helped by those listed (Belafonte, Poitier etc), a lot of the controlling hands behind it (for reasons I’ll explain in a minute), were American communists.

The scholarship fund, according to some of its students and leaders, was dual purposed: to help educate future African leaders with western democratic ideals, and two push back against the Soviet’s use of scholarship to the USSR for African and Asian students to be trained (for many of them), as future Soviet assets and operatives in their native countries.

The key leader of the AASO was Peter Weiss, a German refugee whose parents brought him to the US in the 1930’s. He became a successful lawyer but he was definitely a Communist sympathizer if not actual member of the CPUSA. He was partners with William Kunstler (hardcore red and possibly covert Party member), Michael Kunstler (who died young), Morton Stavis (id. CPUSA member); Arthur Kinoy (longtime CPUSA legal fronts lawyer and well known within the “left community” as a Marxist - I’ve heard him at red fronts and organizational conferences - he is, also very smart and the law professor former FBI DIRECTOR Louis Freeh called his best teacher - “My FBI” autobiography, about p. 164 or so; and Weiss himself.

Weiss is the husband of veteran CPUSA fronts workhorse Cora Weiss, a leader of the Hanoi Lobby operations from Women Strike for Peace (Brooklyn), the National and New Mobilization Committees Against the War in Vietnam and its creation, The Committee of Liaison with Servicemen Detained in Vietnam” -COLIFAM, who tried to get POW/MIA family members to join the “anti-war/peace movement” in order to get mail from their captive relatives (See: Hearings on POWS/MIAs in Southeast Asia, April 1971, House Foreign Affairs Committee for one example of this), Hanoi visitor re bringing back POWS and/or mail to the US, and the help fund Hanoi fake rebuilding campaign known as FRIENDSHIPMENT.

Later she became a leader of the Disarmament Program of the far-left Riverside Church, led by the Rev. William Sloan Coffin, a hardcore communist sympathizer in his own right.

She was also a key figure in the anti-defense protests against US missiles in Europe to deter a Soviet invasion, the MX missile, etc.

She became a student intern in the African Student Support Organization, which was literally run by her husband, Peter, and later BECAME THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF IT.

This is crucial to know because she suddenly shows up a few years later as a key leader in the CPUSA-influenced, if not dominated Women’s Strike for Peace (WSP).

She was suspected of being one of the 101-5 leaders of the “International Committee” of the anti-VN movement, esp. New Mobe/PCPJ, which determined all protest and organizational policies, as well as who would travel internationally for them to Soviet, Cuban, Eastern Block, and No. Vietnamese “peace conferences” and “assemblies”.

The question I raise, without having any specific information either way, is - “Did this Foundation/Organization GUIDE Barack Obama Sr. into any government position in Kenya (he was an economist of some sort) or did Tom MBoya, the future leader of Kenya do it ALL ON HIS OWN, or any combination thereof?

A lot of coincidences in the lives of Obama Sr, Jr, and Stanley Ann Dunham (including the leftist church her father joined on Mercer Island, Seattle, Washington, and his later friendship in Hawaii with Frank Marshall Davis who definitely was a CPUSA member and ‘directed’ Soviet asset/operative (at the essentially “ordered” move to take over a CPUSA propaganda newspaper in Hawaii when the CPUSA was trying to take over the Democrat Party there (which was thwarted by WW2 Army hero Capt. Daniel Inouye and other Democrat liberals, with some help from the US Naval Command in Hawaii).

Lots of questions, some missing documents, several possible explanations for “coincidences” and one helluva mess about the Obamas.

At least Jerome Corsi and a few others here at FR have done a lot of archival research, trying to find documents that would help explain some of our questions. Their work must be continued, if only for the sake of an accurate historical record of Barack Obama and his family.