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Man shoots friend over 30$ debt
personal | 08/15/2018 | ikeon

Posted on 08/15/2018 9:48:53 AM PDT by Ikeon

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To: 9422WMR

Check his FR profile.


21 posted on 08/15/2018 10:35:59 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Wissa
TV is one thing but in real life, you should always obtain legal representation before speaking to the police. It is true that police generally don't intentionally try to railroad innocent people but innocent people can unwittingly implicate themselves in a crime by trying to be helpful.

For example, you might be questioned by police on the shooting of a co-worker you went out for drinks with the night before. You might say something like "I never really liked the guy and not many people did, so I'm not surprised somebody tried to do him in."

BANG! The cops now have MOTIVE (you didn't like the guy) and OPPORTUNITY (you were with him the night of the shooting).

22 posted on 08/15/2018 10:38:09 AM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: 9422WMR

Please define crap. its just an off the top of my head discussion piece. I didnt set out to write the a novel and person A and person B are a way to follow a story that is not a cut and dried case. We often past judgements on a fraction of a story. Im giving you more info. If you dont like my writing, I dont care. Maybe someone else has some insite they want to add.


23 posted on 08/15/2018 10:44:14 AM PDT by Ikeon (maddy murry o'hare is not smiling, she's burning in hell.)
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To: Ikeon

Friends (true friends) don’t shoot friends over a $30 debt. PERIOD...


24 posted on 08/15/2018 10:48:16 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: DannyTN

Get a peep hole so you can see if it’s that friend you owe $30 to before you open the door.


Not a perfect solution. I once heard a scuffling sound outside my front door and as I leaned in to look out the peep hole, a bullet came through the door, striking me in the shoulder and shattering my clavicle.


25 posted on 08/15/2018 10:51:29 AM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: Ikeon

the eye opener to this whole thing for me was the jury was split for a couple of days. And it wasn’t racism. It was 2 different sets of personal experiences with both sides never bothering to let go of their own beliefs to try and understand what the other side was feeling or seeing in the whole situation. We all need to get along to get along and putting yourself in someone elses shoes means you have to empty your mind if your own beliefs and really really relax and listen to what someone esle is saying. Black folks from rural areas are used to some things white folks never experience and white folks from white neighborhoods never had to deal with a black person whos gone off the rails. Black jurers saw this as mostly normal waving a gun around when theres drugs and money involved and figured the guy didnt mean to kill his friend. Theres a guy who killed his best friend by doing something totally stupid. Blacks dont want this guy running free. but theydont see the death penalty as necessary in the case of ann over reaction to a challenge from the deceased. They see the dead mans family and the killers family seeing the whole situation move along to a sad conclusion. whites on the jury saw the whole thing in reverse. A man is dead, lets find the killer and question him, have a trial and then we’ll decide what to do with the murderer. It wasnt racism, it was 2 different ways of looki g at the whole.


26 posted on 08/15/2018 10:56:59 AM PDT by Ikeon (maddy murry o'hare is not smiling, she's burning in hell.)
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To: Wissa

Berger wasn’t a power mad district attorney.


27 posted on 08/15/2018 10:59:11 AM PDT by wally_bert (Terrific! Terrific? Harve Nyquist never ordered any radials.)
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To: Ikeon

Its clearly murder...

Wanton disregard for human life... That’s murder.

Discharging a firearm in the direction of a human being, whether you think the wall between you will stop the bullet or not is depraved indifference.

Its not 1st degree murder, but it is murder.

If the perp had even a remotely good lawyer he would have worked a plea deal.....


28 posted on 08/15/2018 11:10:41 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Ikeon

Second degree murder or whatever they call it in that jurisdiction. Not a death penalty case by any stretch of the imagination.

If the dude behaves in prison, he’ll probably be out in 12 to 15 years. (He’s going to do more than the minimum because it was drug related - parole board will probably take that into account and pass his first couple of tries at parole.)


29 posted on 08/15/2018 11:13:45 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Ikeon

This is clear cut murder, but its not first degree murder... not sure of the state statutes, but showing wanton disregard for human life is murder in most states..

If the prosecution went for first degree murder, then they probably overplayed their hand... Honestly given the facts of this case, if the defendant had a half way decent lawyer, should have worked a plea deal for lesser murder charge or manslaughter, and never seen a court room.

If a reasonable deal was offered, and the defendant decided to take his chances at trial, then he probably was given very bad advice.


30 posted on 08/15/2018 11:13:54 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Yes its muder, he didn't get off, he was convicted of depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is a type of murder where an individual acts with a “depraved indifference” to human life and where such act results in a death, despite that individual not explicitly intending to kill. Its murder II with an up to 30 year possible sentence.
31 posted on 08/15/2018 11:15:26 AM PDT by Ikeon (maddy murry o'hare is not smiling, she's burning in hell.)
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To: Ikeon
What would you do?

Get person A a 357 magnum, then he'd only have to use one round.

Who cares what two meth heads do?

32 posted on 08/15/2018 11:25:02 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
say 30, then say $. say them together you get *30 dollars*. now say $ and then say 30.. say them together and you get a *dollar-30*.. who shoots someone over $1.30? lol I just bit my tongue because it was in my cheek as I was laughing while writing this. .
33 posted on 08/15/2018 11:27:12 AM PDT by Ikeon (A neat desk is the sign of a sick mind.. really)
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To: Ikeon

What’s this 30$?


34 posted on 08/15/2018 11:43:31 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: USS Alaska
I can almost guess the skin color of some of the posters here. The ones who want the DP are most assuredly white blue collar and really not getting the point of my post which is the difference between the 2 races, and its not racism. Its a lack of effort to try and walk in someone else shoes. And the lack of effort and hard headedness went both ways with this jury. I see a split jury that over came cultural differences to reach a verdict that was right IMHO.. you only see a "meth head" murdered and who cares? God cares..
35 posted on 08/15/2018 11:46:19 AM PDT by Ikeon (A neat desk is the sign of a sick mind.. really)
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To: bgill
What’s this 30$? I can't believe the number of posts about my use of 30$ vs. $30. My bad.. I thought freepers were a better class of losers (nod to Randy Travis) than FB and twitter. besides I've got friends in low places. Stick a fork in me, I'm done
36 posted on 08/15/2018 11:58:03 AM PDT by Ikeon (I'm going back to a better class of losers.)
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To: Ikeon
God cares.

God Forgives, I don't, nor do I care because as you point out, God Cares.

I'll go back to my original statement, 2 meth heads, {other than family} who cares?

Drug addiction is merciless, and while I feel for the families of the addicts, the addicts made a choice, and not a good one.

May God have mercy on their souls, I have none to give.

37 posted on 08/15/2018 12:10:32 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: sparklite2

No but if you had in addition to the peep hole, a bullet proof door....


38 posted on 08/15/2018 12:28:21 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Ikeon

I tried to give as many details as possible that were never printed, but some people can’t get past my writing of 30$ vs. $30 or Mr A and Mr B, or the fact I an not a writer for a living. So for all those people here’s the printed story instead. https://wtop.com/charles-county/2018/08/md-man-convicted-of-fatally-shooting-neighbor-2-days-before-christmas-over-30/

No good deed ever goes unpunished.


39 posted on 08/15/2018 12:53:21 PM PDT by Ikeon (I'm going back to a better class of losers.)
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To: Ikeon

Using a .25 ACP is clear that there was no intent to kill.


40 posted on 08/15/2018 12:57:07 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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