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Do I Have a Right to Die?
Bible Gateway ^ | January 17, 2018 | Joni Eareckson Tada

Posted on 08/06/2018 11:14:50 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yes, you have a right to die. You are beyond human punishment at that point so how could anyone say otherwise? What you don’t have a right to is the perversion of medicine and medical personnel who would participate in your death.


21 posted on 08/06/2018 11:59:44 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There's a reason why it is illegal to attempt suicide under the laws of any human society that hasn't lost its collective minds.

Without laws like this, it would be illegal to stop someone who is attempting to kill himself in most circumstances.

Imagine a world where police officers, EMTs, and even just ordinary "Good Samaritans" would face civil lawsuits for daring to interfere with a person's "right to die."

22 posted on 08/06/2018 12:00:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: clee1

But why all of a sudden are some trying to force this change?

We’ve had an established ethic on this matter for centuries. It’s not like we have new information.

Why change it now?


23 posted on 08/06/2018 12:01:27 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: kosciusko51
I think there is a significant difference between actively causing your death, and stopping the use of extraordinary measures to keep you alive.

You are 100% correct about this.

24 posted on 08/06/2018 12:01:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The right to do something that is against nature? The right to stop an unjust aggressor with deadly force does not apply to the self - no one is an unjust aggressor against himself.
So, NO.


25 posted on 08/06/2018 12:02:38 PM PDT by I want the USA back (This week's hypocritical hysteria: Manafort/Russia Probe again!)
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To: reasonisfaith

Because the State (medicare) wants to be able to decide to deny you life-saving treatment when they deem you worthless.


26 posted on 08/06/2018 12:04:04 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1
Even if you OD, shoot yourself in the head or toss yourself in the ocean with an anchor tied to your feet... ONLY God decides your death.

Then there really can't be something called suicide, can there?

27 posted on 08/06/2018 12:06:58 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: clee1

Think of a kindergarten classroom. They’re doing a fingerpainting project.

Which kid has the right to ball up and throw away a given fingerpainting before starting a new one? The artist, and none else.


28 posted on 08/06/2018 12:08:22 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Bryanw92

“I’m not sure that I want to suffer for years to “strengthen the character of a helping society” which is really just bankruptcy for my family and then being handed over to the tender mercies of Medicaid.”
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Exactly. If I choose to die, it is because I love my family. I have many health issues now at 71, and have already started divesting my assets to family. The problem is, judges can look at divestment over your last 10 years, and allow creditors to lay claim to them if they feel you are divesting to avoid medical creditors.

I lost 2 toes three years ago, and now I am rapidly losing eyesight because of clotting retinal tissue.

I will probably be blind in 2 years in at least one eye.

I can’t even fathom putting the burden on my family to take care of me in that way.

I have never feared death, but what I fear most is my family sacrificing THEIR lives to give me a couple years more of someone wiping my ass and leading me around up and down stairs.

I still work, and maybe will finish out this year, but I’ll be damned if I become a burden on my family and friends. They don’t deserve that.


29 posted on 08/06/2018 12:09:38 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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To: waterhill
She was a selfish bitch. Ask her daughters and grandkids, mother, sister, dad, cousins..... I was even mad at her for quitting the game....

IMO there's no doubt something was driving her to think only of herself. But those left behind can use anger to shield against really seeing why she made the decision she did.

30 posted on 08/06/2018 12:11:30 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Responsibility2nd
...Do I Have a Right to Die?

No matter what,
I will die, and so will you
It not so much a right, as a certainty

It is all too easy to accelerate the process

31 posted on 08/06/2018 12:13:34 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Looked at it that way, no, there isn’t.

But I think God allows alot of things to happen that He would not cause to happen.

However He certainly has the power to halt a death.


32 posted on 08/06/2018 12:16:13 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The nurse gave me my diagnosis.

“Do you want treatment?” she asked.

“I was under the impression that I would die without it,” I replied.

“That’s correct.”

My wife started screaming, “Of COURSE he wants treatment!!”

“I have to hear it from him,” she said without emotion.


To be asked whether I wanted to live or die was a little stunning.

In retrospect, I’m grateful that I’m Catholic. And I’m grateful my wife is, too. The answer was easy, without hesitation.

Although I have been a burden, especially to her, for these three years, she has never flagged, never doubted that I should live. She has always found my continued living to be a worthwhile project.


33 posted on 08/06/2018 12:18:09 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: reasonisfaith

That argument conflates life with property (of another).

My life is my property (or perhaps God’s). I can wad it up and toss it if I wish, or God can, or God can stop me.

YOU (or the State), however, have no right to a) wad up my life, b) force me to do so, or c) stop me from doing it.


34 posted on 08/06/2018 12:19:50 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp

+1

That’s how I feel.


35 posted on 08/06/2018 12:21:46 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I believe you are obligated to accept the death God sends you.


36 posted on 08/06/2018 2:28:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: kosciusko51

I agree completely.


37 posted on 08/06/2018 3:01:11 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: clee1

Careful, you’re falling for the leftist narrative which reflects their strategy of “let’s use their beloved US Constitution against their most cherished values.”

I hope you don’t continue to fall for it because it’s as stupid as anything else they have up their sleeve. Mostly because they don’t understand their own ultimate motives.


38 posted on 08/06/2018 4:01:28 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: clee1

The answer is your life belongs to God. Not to you.


39 posted on 08/06/2018 4:02:00 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: clee1

You did not create yourself, remember?


40 posted on 08/06/2018 4:04:07 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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