Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Judges order full restart of DACA, administration has ‘sole burden’ to locate migrant parents
The Politico ^ | August 4, 2018 | Daniel Lipmann, Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman

Posted on 08/04/2018 9:27:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last
FULL TITLES: Immigration wars: Judges order full restart of DACA, Trump administration has ‘sole burden’ to locate migrant parents
1 posted on 08/04/2018 9:27:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah under discussion already. Restart a program that wasn’t legal in the first place via a presidential memo authorizing it. Somebody deserves some serious jail time.


2 posted on 08/04/2018 9:31:27 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

8 US Code 1182 you F’in tyrant.


3 posted on 08/04/2018 9:32:28 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Judges have no authority to order a President to issue an Executive Order as such an order by a judge is claiming the full powers of the presidency for themselves - yet that is exactly what they have done. And the press reports it as though it is legitimate.


4 posted on 08/04/2018 9:33:18 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Elections matter. Sixteen years of Clinton/Obama resulted in the appointment of many biased, essentially corrupt Democrat judges.


5 posted on 08/04/2018 9:34:21 PM PDT by allendale (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

Damned unelected black-robe Judiciarchs.

Ignore them.

(Or introduce them to rope, tree branch, gravity.... Whatever works.)


6 posted on 08/04/2018 9:39:12 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pound sand unconstitutional jackass.


7 posted on 08/04/2018 9:41:54 PM PDT by Fungi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This judge is brazen. He knows he’s far from any law that supports his edict.


8 posted on 08/04/2018 9:41:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once, just ONCE, I want to see President Trump tweet “enforce it then, you black robed bastard.”


9 posted on 08/04/2018 10:01:41 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain ("Progressivism" is as every kind of evil: it can never create, only corrupt and destroy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LegendHasIt

I prefer wall, blindfold, firing squad...


10 posted on 08/04/2018 10:03:18 PM PDT by This_Dude
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Republican Wildcat; 2ndDivisionVet; Lazamataz; allendale; LegendHasIt; Fungi; Red Steel; ...
Republican Wildcat wrote: Judges have no authority to order a President to issue an Executive Order as such an order by a judge is claiming the full powers of the presidency for themselves - yet that is exactly what they have done. And the press reports it as though it is legitimate.

Lazamataz wrote: Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, also known as DACA (closely related to the Dream Act mentioned above) was illegally implemented by Executive Order -- even though Obama admitted he could not do so -- and had an expiration date of March 5th, 2018. Despite this, a Federal Judge (John D. Bates) ordered the Trump Administration to restart this illegal, expired program within 90 days.

So I was hanging on Twitter when a tweet by the ceckless funt, Cameltoe Hairyass, scrolled by.

Well, I got mad, and made fun of her for claiming that it was "illegal" for a president to disobey an executive order.

But then, I looked further, so I didn't embarrass myself.

Turns out that DACA ISN'T an "executive order" - it's an effing "executive branch memorandum" - a memo.

And that there are RULES for executive branch memorandums.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_memorandum

Sometimes used interchangeably, an executive order is a more prestigious form of executive action that must cite the specific constitutional or statutory authority the president has to use it.

Unlike executive orders, memoranda are not required by law to be published in the Federal Register, but publication is necessary in order to have "general applicability and legal effect".

The Federal Register gives publication priority to executive orders and presidential proclamations over memoranda.

Memoranda can be amended or rescinded by executive orders or another memorandum, but executive orders take legal precedence and cannot be changed by a memorandum.

===============

I can find no evidence that the DACA memorandum (the memo) was published in the Federal Register.

This means that a federal judge-clown has ruled that a memo that has no legal effect has the legal effect of a law or an executive order.

As Laz pointed out in his post #13, "The main point of this post is to point out the sheer, galling hypocrisy that both the News Misleadia and Democrats (but I repeat myself) display, constantly".

It's clear that the News Misleadia has refused to actually tell people what was going on with Trump's #MemoBreaking* and his #ScoffMemo* attitude.

#LawBreaking and #ScoffLaw

11 posted on 08/04/2018 10:22:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: kiryandil

Thank you for the clarity on this insanity


12 posted on 08/04/2018 10:35:56 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somebody explain to me the authority a judge has to force the government to implement an illegal program. DACA violated established US immigration laws. Congress never passed the Dream Act, therefore DACA is based on no law. How is it possible that DACA can be enforced when it was nothing but a policy Obama installed on his own?

This is why all judges should be forced to identify the specific law and the key provisions of that law, upon which they base their rulings.


13 posted on 08/04/2018 10:45:38 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ciaphas Cain

Yes, this is a really good case for Trump to just say, nope, I am not doing it. Sue me.


14 posted on 08/04/2018 10:46:24 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: kiryandil

No point at all at trying to point that out to the Communist Libtards at Politico.


15 posted on 08/04/2018 10:46:40 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

make the court enforce the order.


16 posted on 08/04/2018 10:50:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

All the judiciary has to do now is ENFORCE their law. What? Not their job to enforce the laws? Well, neither is legislating it. Pound sand, petty tyrants.


17 posted on 08/04/2018 10:54:22 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kiryandil

Kamala Harris?!?! I thought that idiot was supposed to have been a lawyer herself. Seems not to understand how government works.


18 posted on 08/04/2018 10:58:08 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: allendale

Actually, I believe that this jerk off was appointed by George W. Bush.


19 posted on 08/04/2018 11:00:25 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: LegendHasIt

“(Or introduce them to rope, tree branch, gravity.... Whatever works.)”

The damage they’re doing to what’s left of the rule of law is incalculable. Destroying the last vestiges of our constitutional republic.

Nothing short of treason trials and hangings on the national mall can save us now...


20 posted on 08/04/2018 11:06:57 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson