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Inside Google's shadow workforce of contract laborers
The Gazette | July 29, 2018 | Bloomberg News

Posted on 07/29/2018 7:14:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: https://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/nation-and-world/inside-googles-shadow-workforce-of-contract-laborers-20180729


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: employment; google; internet; jobs

1 posted on 07/29/2018 7:14:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Link to article: https://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/nation-and-world/inside-googles-shadow-workforce-of-contract-laborers-20180729


2 posted on 07/29/2018 7:15:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IBM has done the same for many years. This I would think is normal.


3 posted on 07/29/2018 7:23:00 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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This is akin to the liberal professors with tenure ignoring the army of lesser paid adjuncts. The inferiors don’t matter.


4 posted on 07/29/2018 7:39:09 PM PDT by tbw2
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What I see every day. The pay is still good for the Contractors/Subs.

It really hurts them when they Sub to a Contractor (Prime contract) and there are no benefits. They are better off going 1099 for better hourly rates. Few do since the vast majority of them don’t understand business.

Living accommodations for the single ones with no family in the Bay Area are $1,000/month bed in dorms or cars. Some rent small box trucks and live in the back of it in the parking lots of the work location. Lots of RVs lining the streets in front of $2mm homes........

Kind of funny to watch it all.

The majority of them are overly arrogant.


5 posted on 07/29/2018 7:55:46 PM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills - We are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy)
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In IT, however, contractors are typically paid a higher rate than employees. They don’t get any benefits and can be released at any time, so they demand higher pay - and they receive it.


6 posted on 07/29/2018 8:07:18 PM PDT by proxy_user
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In IT, however, contractors are typically paid a higher rate than employees. They don’t get any benefits and can be released at any time, so they demand higher pay - and they receive it.

They also have to pay their own SS so that is a 7.5% pay cut right off the top.

But if that is what you can get what choice do you have?

7 posted on 07/29/2018 8:22:12 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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So basically this is an article about corporate tech promoting “white privilege” and relegates contractors to a status I just coined as “riggers”...

The irony is astounding, especially-considering the demographic of many of those holding tech stocks and the fact that this is all a tactic to boost stock price.

Hypocrites.


8 posted on 07/29/2018 8:24:46 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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That is true, but the guys making $110 an hour just smile and pay it.


9 posted on 07/29/2018 8:34:09 PM PDT by proxy_user
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That is true, but the guys making $110 an hour just smile and pay it.


10 posted on 07/29/2018 8:34:11 PM PDT by proxy_user
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Seems odd for this to be coming from Bloomberg News. Shouldn’t they be pro H1-b visa? Are they saying it is bad for an American to be treated this way, but not foreigners on an H1-b, who are treated worse?


11 posted on 07/29/2018 9:10:15 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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All of Silicon Valley has done this for scores of years

The contractors I knew preferred it. If they got a better offer they would leave and go work somewhere else. This ain’t rocket science if you don’t like they pay and perks put your resume out there


12 posted on 07/29/2018 10:00:15 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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True to f all the contractors in all fields that I have worked with


13 posted on 07/29/2018 10:01:30 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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All of which is meaningless for the H1B visa holders that are essentially indentured servants, working for far less because they hope the job can lead to American citizenship.


14 posted on 07/30/2018 5:29:25 AM PDT by tbw2
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They also have to pay their own SS so that is a 7.5% pay cut right off the top.

Um, all the SE taxes are 15% off the top, not just 7.5%.
15 posted on 07/30/2018 4:25:12 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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Um, all the SE taxes are 15% off the top, not just 7.5%.

True.

My meaning is that working as a contractor you are responsible for the employer’s share as well.

My sister worked as a contract home healthcare nurse and did not realize that fact. She got hit by the Feds with a bill for her SS that took her a decade to pay off.

The firm she worked for never gave her a clue as to laws dealing with working for them.

The government doesn’t do much to let people know either.

16 posted on 07/30/2018 4:36:56 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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The firm she worked for never gave her a clue as to laws dealing with working for them.

The government doesn’t do much to let people know either.


This is true. Did she know she was 1099, or was it more younger kid got a job and is just excited for that?

Really, I think we should get rid of the employer share - let people pay their own taxes. This will make people realize just how much they're actually paying in taxes, that they don't even know they're paying. It's ridiculous.
17 posted on 07/30/2018 6:13:20 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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Did she know she was 1099

This was before 1099.

But she was young at the time.

Really, I think we should get rid of the employer share - let people pay their own taxes. This will make people realize just how much they're actually paying in taxes, that they don't even know they're paying. It's ridiculous.

The firm she worked for never gave her a clue as to laws dealing with working for them. They considered her a private contractor and they never let her know or told her what that designation meant.

I agree.

I also believe we should do away with corporate taxes. People don’t realize that corporations do not pay taxes, they collect taxes. All corporate taxes are paid by the end consumer.

Government is all about hiding how much taxes the people really pay.

18 posted on 07/30/2018 6:36:59 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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