WHEN IS TREASON... TREASON?

VANITY | July 10/18 | BEJ

[Deaf Smith]

It is the response to your #24 post about enforcing the oath of allegiance for naturalization.

No I do not like it

It will take Congress to fix this BUT, if you read the history Congess has refused to touch it for 200 years.

[mewzilla]

Sedition unless it can be proven that the uniparty has been aiding and/or abetting the Norkies or Iraq. Then treason works, too, since we never have signed a peace treaty with either, IIRC.

[elbook]

someone selling their office to forign powers

WHEN is the hillary investigation going to seriously start?

It’ll rip the dem party ‘a new one’ - quite deservedly

Aiding and abetting that treason by leftist media — thats going to be a big one too.

[Hostage]

You took #24 out of context. The context is that naturalized citizens who commit treasonous acts are subject to criminal charges of treason because they owe allegiance as evidenced by the 'Oath of Allegiance' they must take as part of their naturalization.

Your #20:
> "Got schooled 2 weeks+ ago that SCOTUS ruled in the 50's that the Naturalization Oath was ceremonial only and not enforceable."

Of course and without question an Oath of Allegiance is an enforceable element in the context of criminal charges of treason. The point to understand is that a criminal charge of treason can only be pressed on traitorous citizens "owing allegiance" AS evidenced by 'Oath'. The federal statute on treason is here excerpted:

"18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason ...Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason"

The question is "who owes allegiance" and how is it evidenced? Anyone taking an Oath of Allegiance is subject to the federal statute for treason and that includes naturalized citizens.

"All naturalized citizens" who commit certain acts against the United States, are subject to the federal statute for treason.

In your #27, you changed the subject to the legality of stripping citizenship in matters of dual citizenship. Those SCOTUS rulings (Perez and Afoyim) had nothing to do with 'treason' which is the subject of this thread.

[sargon]

The left carries on with impunity -- convincing public opinion that Trump is a dictator, a Hitler... a tyrant that should be stopped by any means.

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The Left is merely preaching to it's own delusional choir, and isn't "convincing public opinion" of jack sh-t with respect to President Trump. In fact, the Left's patently obvious—and breathtakingly extreme—detachment from objective reality is steadily driving the People into the MAGA/DTS camp.

This fact will be compellingly demonstrated over the next two election cycles, IMHO, and if it isn't, then I'm absolutely convinced that we're staring civil war straight in the face—the real kind, with copious bloodshed...

[TigersEye]

Sedition, it’s not ‘treason’, it is related but different. Sedition is in a category of crimes against the United States but it is NOT treason.

Thanks, that is exactly my point.

[BEJ]

Thanks everyone for your contribution!