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To: w1n1
Let's see if I can save us all some time and summarize the thread:

We need someone to claim the ballistics of modern 9mm JHP ammunition is for all intents and purposes just as good as 45 ACP.

We need someone else to provide anecdotal evidence of a 45 stopping a criminal or wild animal where 9mm did or would have failed.

We need someone else to chime in randomly that .40 is the best compromise and that LEOs are abandoning the 9mm for the .40.

Someone else will point out that 9mm are generally more concealable, and that any gun you have with you is better than one left at home.

Someone will jump in here and point out they carry a .380 just for the aforementioned reason.

Another poster will point out that the 1911 in 45 has been around for over a hundred years for a reason.

Then there will be the claim that under stress people miss, and the generally larger magazine capacities of 9mm are better.

The previous point will be countered by someone who says he/she never misses, and that even a nick on the shoulder from a .45 is a fatal wound.

Shot placement.

Stopping power.

A hipster of the firearms world will chime in with his/her favorite caliber most of us have never heard of before that'll make the rest of us go google it.

An old-school bad-a** will state how he/she only carries "wheel guns" because they're far more reliable than those fancy semi-autos.


I'm sure I've forgotten a few of the other common posts in these threads. But that about sums it up. No, there never is any resolution to these threads. It comes down to personal priorities, capabilities, and a host of other conditions and constraints. In the end, 9mm works for some, 45 ACP for others, and of course caliber xxx for others. It doesn't matter what you carry - only that you carry!
20 posted on 07/10/2018 5:21:24 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

That was awesome.


30 posted on 07/10/2018 6:05:55 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: ThunderSleeps

You hit the High Points!


38 posted on 07/10/2018 6:35:32 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Yours is the best post of the day. Thanks!

I remember what Col. Jeff Cooper said about the old salt “Beware the man who has only one gun.” He explained that the gun makers would all go out of business if we really believed that one gun was enough. People need to be buying different firearms and keep it all going. It is for the good and safety of our great nation. (Tell me if your wife buys into this argument.)

I love these threads and I think they help the youngsters especially. I would always add my belief that we must study fighting in general and not get too bogged down in discussions of equipment. After all, as I have said many times, a gunfight is more FIGHT than gun!


39 posted on 07/10/2018 6:44:45 AM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
A hipster of the firearms world will chime in with his/her favorite caliber most of us have never heard of before that'll make the rest of us go google it.

9.2mm Podbyrin is the only caliber worth having.

40 posted on 07/10/2018 6:58:25 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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