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To: CondoleezzaProtege

One more thing, as far as Russia’s “aggressive” behavior, who is being more aggressive, America (especially under Democrat administrations) or Russia? Under Clinton we attacked a Russian ally (the country Russia went to war over in WWI), bombed the civilian population into submission, and gave a part of their historical homeland to radical Islamists. That humiliated the friendly Yeltsin and led to Putin. It also destroyed any moral credibility we might have had in complaining about the sanctity of sovereign nations vis-à-vis Ukraine. Then under Obama we attempted to overthrow Syria, where Russia had been allied with the government and had a navy base for 50 years, and then claimed they were “interfering”.

As for Russia’s “aggression” with Ukraine, from the Russian perspective it’s not so clear cut. Crimea had been Russian going back to the 1850s when they fought the great powers of Europe to keep it. It was the USSR under Kruschev who gave it to Ukraine. Moreover, whether the globalists in DC liked it the Ukraine elected a pro-Russian president, and we supported the coup that overthrew him, leading to the “civil war” or “invasion” (take your pick) by Russia. And we complain about Russian “interference in our democracy” from a few internet trolls. Russia may be backing anybody who is anti-American but who is carrying out “aggression” is in the eye of the beholder.


36 posted on 07/14/2018 1:43:49 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin

Some of the realities of what has taken place on the ground in Crimea are shameful. A whole convent of Catholic nuns had to leave (that’s just one example) after being assaulted by the onslaught of draconian measures and registration laws courtesy of Kremlin and the Moscow Patriarchate wing of the Russian Orthodox Church.

Ukrainian Orthodox clergy have been physically been beaten up by Russian-separatists. I suggest you look up what is happening to Christian minorities.

But in terms of ongoing “hot war” bloodshed and violence, look not to Crimea but to Donbass, East Ukraine.


37 posted on 07/14/2018 2:43:21 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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