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To: Parody
Maybe not, but it doesn't change that they push them (and besides, as you yourself pointed out, Rorschach was nihilistic, so he definitely was not going to be remotely good).

Unfortunately, authors don't do that. Just look at how Hideo Kojima, not even caring what the fans want despite his claims, constantly makes train wrecks of his own continuity due to his auteur status. I don't even view writing as an art, more like a science, if anything, chemistry, to be exact.

As far as the prequels, considering he bashed capitalism via the Trade Federation, made it out to be the worst thing ever with them (well, barring maybe Sidious, whom BTW was in control of them), even having the Separatists (which WERE meant to be the bad guys in the latter half of the trilogy) being literally composed of corporations, and he made no secret to hating the capitalist ethic to such an extent that he even went as far as to claim that Soviet filmmaking at the height of the Cold War was superior to American filmmaking since he's "allowed to do anything he wants" so long as he doesn't tick off the leader, while in America, he has to "curtail to a fine line of commercialism" as he told Charlie Rose in that interview (and apparently when getting his start in Hollywood, he literally quoted Marx when he said, and I quote, "The studio system is dead. It died fifteen years ago when the corporations took over and the studio heads suddenly became agents and lawyers and accountants. The power is with the people now. The workers have the means of production.". This was around the time Empire was released BTW. The quote can be found in Skywalking, though it seems blind to his political views considering they claimed he was Conservative when the fact that he rooted for the Vietcong should make clear he was not Conservative at all.), I'm pretty sure that he was trying to push the left-wing agenda in those films. Ian McDiarmid even implied in the Guardian that he deliberately geared the film to children specifically to indoctrinate them into his agenda, where he warned against "fascists trying to take away freedom."

Also, in regards to your point about nationalization in that deleted scene, considering they're the same guys who tended to claim we're invading Vietnam for their "tin deposits" as a really left-wing professor of film told me, I'm pretty sure Lucas when making that scene had that in mind, especially when he definitely made it very clear that he viewed America as an "imperialist power" trying to conquer Vietnam, and made no secret to rooting for the VC (heck, his own development notes for the film, dating back to 1973 when he started writing it no less, outright confirm that he was rooting for them AND North Vietnam). Besides, the fact that the Empire literally left the Corporate Sector Authority alone and if anything expanded its region and even had in place an Immunity Sphere for the Wheel [basically the Star Wars version of Las Vegas] specifically to keep the Empire out would suggest they don't take nationalization all that seriously. And let's not forget, technically, the Nazis used nationalization, and the Communists will resort to any means to demonize Conservativism, especially by implying they are Nazis (Supergirl, a left-wing show after its move to the CW, had Snapper Carr indirectly referring to Trump as a fascist in one episode, I believe it was Exodus, specifically the scene where he fires Kara for starting a blog) due to a combination of both Stalin saving face regarding Hitler's crimes and the Frankfurt School lying to push Marxism. And besides, Lucas had agreed with Obama on how "government should not be owned by corporations" (a common socialist remark) and even supported Obama in terms of demanding gutting the Bush tax cuts, meaning Lucas WAS effectively for nationalization (ironically, Obama doing exactly what Lucas begged him to do is what mediated that deal to Disney in the first place). Quite frankly, it's because of Lucas's insistence that the Rebels are based on the Vietcong and the Empire was based on America, combined with the fact that it actually IS backed up by something he wrote during the development of the first film, that I'm even an Empire supporter (and I don't even LIKE rooting for villains, that's how badly I took the revelation). And even if you ignore the development notes, if Lucas truly didn't want to be assumed to root for the Vietcong, why would he agree with his so-called "friends" when they claimed it instead of say, showing proof that he didn't support them at all? I would have denounced those friends if they claimed that about me when I didn't advocate for that at all had I been in his position.

And honestly, I might be interested in any answers to questions to The Last Jedi had The Last Jedi actually left any questions instead of pretty much cutting the story short (they killed Snoke off too early, for example, and the Resistance is all but dead at this point, cut down to such an extent that the survivors can all fit comfortably on the Millennium Falcon.). At this point, Episode IX has a LOT going for it, probably not going to have it do well as a result.
36 posted on 07/04/2018 6:01:33 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e
Of course, Rorschach was nihilistic in a rather Nietzschean sense (kind of a "conservative" relativism in the way that Nazism a.k.a. National Socialism is supposedly a right-wing ideology), and the character Ozymandias (who is definitely more aligned with the left-wing Alan Moore ideologically) is even implied to compare him to a Nazi in one scene, so you definitely get that "Everyone who doesn't agree with the left is a Nazi!" vibe from Watchmen. He also has a psychoanalyst in one scene claim that Rorschach (without his mask) is "fascinatingly ugly" because he's a freckled redhead, a.k.a. a "ginger" in the British terminology of Moore's homeland culture; but good luck convincing Rorschach's many fangirls across the pond of that.

Anyway, yes, George Lucas definitely flirted with the dark side (i.e. the leftist dogma his pals were pushing) in film school and ultimately tumbled to it a long time ago. Like many a leftist who substitutes "big corporations" for "big government" and "fascist" for "commie" as his favorite objects of blame for being the source of all things evil, the close relation between Communism's international socialism and Nazism's national socialism is typically lost on him, as is the irony of bashing big corporations while selling his company and its franchise off to Disney's gargantuan corporate conglomerate. The incestuous relationship between corporations and governments in actual fascism, of course, leaves who has ownership of whom far more ambiguous; the Nazis' main reason for purging Ernst Roehm and his loathsome S.A. was that they were determined to put a stop to his rather Stalin-esque plan to nationalize their corporate bedfellows, but only because they considered themselves to be the real controllers of those corporations and weren't about to hand control of their "turf" over to anyone else.

In any case, The Last Jedi actually did leave plenty of questions to be answered, though again I wonder whether J.J. Abrams can work up the proper resolve to answer them:

1. So who was Snoke anyway, and how did he corrupt Ben Solo into Kylo Ren? (Industry rumors indicate Andy Serkis is still on call to reprise his role as Snoke in episode IX, if only in a flashback, so we might actually get an answer to this one.)

2. Now that Kylo Ren has actually done what Darth Vader always planned on doing (killing his master and taking control of his empire), how effectively will he actually rule? How many insubordinate underlings (such as General Hux, for one) is he going to have to Force choke to keep the rest of the First Order in line?

3. Will hyperspace missiles based on replicating Holdo's final heroic sacrifice become the galaxy's new super-weapons, sparking an arms race that renders Death Stars and everything else like them (*cough* Starkiller Base *cough*) obsolete?

4. Are any of the main characters' potential romances going to come to fruition? (If the "romance" in question proves to be between Finn & Poe or Rey & Rose, however, that's where I abandon the franchise forever, just as I abandoned Marvel Comics back in the early aughts for the very same reason.)

5. Are those last two dozen or so survivors really all that's left of the Resistance, or were their Outer Rim allies actually just too busy with the First Order in their own corners of the galaxy to answer their call for help?

6. Where's Lando Calrissian?

7. What have those Knights of Ren (heavily implied to be Luke's other apprentices Kylo Ren corrupted) been doing in the last two movies, and what will they be doing in this one?

8. What are Rey and Ren going to do about their involuntary Force bond with each other (still present even now that Snoke's gone), from which (incidentally) the novelizations indicate she's been receiving so much of that raw power and rapid training that has her detractors calling her a Mary Sue?

9. Now that Yoda has established Force ghosts can do things like calling up lightning storms from the afterlife, what will Force Ghost Luke Skywalker be doing in this next movie? (Like Alec Guinness before him, Mark Hamill will almost certainly be returning for at least one more paycheck.)

10. Of course, the biggest question of all The Last Jedi left unanswered: what becomes of Leia now that Carrie Fisher is gone and LucasFilm has sworn not to recreate her digitally?

37 posted on 07/04/2018 11:11:38 PM PDT by Parody
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