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To: otness_e
Methinks your stomach gets upset a little too easily. The Last Jedi was a good movie and I rather enjoyed it, but I'm definitely not seeing any of the stuff Kojima's reading into it in this piece:

1. Democratization? Now that Snoke and Luke are gone (and Leia will be going with Carrie Fisher's death), looks to me like Rey and Ren and that little kid with the broom at the end are the only people shown to have any direct access to that mystical Force thing (which, for all its being based on a lot of real-life Eastern occult religion and philosophy, has always basically been the scotch tape holding the stories together; e.g. it's the reason those storm troopers are all such lousy shots when they're aiming at the heroes). Nobody in the film ever said the Force is now available for everyone to use; Luke merely points out that it doesn't need really any priesthood (such as the Jedi) or practitioners (such as himself) at all to go on operating.

2. Poe kicked to the curb? Looked to me like (for all of his mistakes) he was undergoing a lot of character development and was firmly in command by the end: "What are you looking at me for? Follow him!"

3. Feminism? Rey fails to heed Luke's warnings that things aren't going to go the way she thinks and ends up getting humiliatingly whacked in the head with her own saber and manipulated into helping Kylo Ren overthrow his master and seize the throne. Admiral Holdo is deliberately written to be an obnoxious character who lets her feelings get in the way of getting her job done as part of teaching Poe what not to do as he's learning how to be a responsible leader (and contrary to some of the dumber critiques I've seen, dying your hair weird colors, wearing what looks like an evening gown into battle, and chewing out a subordinate for getting an entire fleet blown up with his insubordination does not make you an SJW). As for the much-despised character Rose, her selfishness likewise contributes to the failure of Finn's missions and stands in stark contrast to his heroic selflessness and noble edification of those around him.

If portraying the men as responsible heroes who learn from their mistakes and the women as selfish, needy, hysterical weaklings who let their personal grudges get in the way of doing their jobs is feminism, I'd hate to see what actual misogyny looks like!

Abrams and Kennedy and Johnson certainly aren't helping their case by lobbing wild accusations of racism/misogyny/whatever at people who didn't like the movie, but a lot of those people in turn aren't helping their case either by lobbing wild accusations at people like me who did like it, and attacking us for pointing out how much of the SJW crap they're professing to see in the movie simply isn't there.

24 posted on 07/04/2018 9:52:16 AM PDT by Parody
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To: Parody

Don’t get me wrong, I personally think The Last Jedi’s better than The Force Awakens solely for the fact that it doesn’t retread the plot of The Empire Strikes Back (though then again, it doesn’t take much effort to be better than The Force Awakens.). However, it’s STILL a very bad movie overall.

Also, in A New Hope, it’s implied the Stormtroopers were missing the heroes on purpose in order to effectively trick them into leading them straight to Yavin 4, and even The Empire Strikes Back implied that the Stormtroopers missing the heroes was specifically to lure them to the Executor to be drawn in.

As far as democratization, I think Kojima’s referring to “democratization” in the vein of, say, what Lenin did or what the Jacobins did, where they tried to topple kings and any form of power structures, given is utter adherence to the left-wing.

Regarding feminism, yeah, going by what I’ve heard of the film, it seemed more like the film was trying to paint Poe in a negative light, and painted Leia and Holdo in more positive lights, despite it being obvious that they were in the wrong. And I can tell you this much: Most normal people don’t dye their hair colors those kinds of colors (certainly not conservative people). The few people I’ve seen to dye their hair like that tend to be very liberal in outlook. Either that, or anime cosplayers. Besides, Kojima himself had claimed that MGS2 was meant to promote the idea that women are going to be protectors of men instead of the other way around in the 21st century, to the extent that it would be their age, and last I checked, Rose basically was held hostage by the Patriots and forced to effectively act as a spy for them even after developing feelings for Raiden, Emma ends up getting killed by a bisexual vampire-like creature in a hostage situation while hating her stepbrother for most of the game [not to mention was subject to a massive escort mission], and Olga’s primary motivation for “protecting” Raiden was more protecting her daughter Olga, and even there, it’s implied that she failed since her kid is STILL under Patriot control and still being used as leverage. In fact, the closest it ever got to women protecting men was Fortune somehow managing to deflect the missiles despite her EMP device being deactivated.

And just as an FYI, a lot of the leftists saw the whole thing as well, and even some of the staff who, you know, wrote the film and acted in it made it far too clear it was meant to push SJW stuff. So it’s not just anti SJW critics who noted it, but actual SJWs as well, some of whom even included the actual development staff.


25 posted on 07/04/2018 10:14:40 AM PDT by otness_e
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