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California Constituent: U.S. Senator Kamala Harris NOT a Natural Born Citizen
cdrkerchner.wordpress.com ^ | 12/4/17 | Gary Wilmott

Posted on 07/03/2018 2:14:16 AM PDT by a little elbow grease

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To: alloysteel

Jus soli and Jus sanguine are necessary to be a natural born citizen.

If one is born with multiple citizenships, loyalties and allegiances, one is not naturally an American.


41 posted on 07/03/2018 6:40:28 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: rlmorel

The loophole that the Kenyanesian Usurper exploited is that as long as Nancy Pelosi signs off, no one else checks.


42 posted on 07/03/2018 6:43:42 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: heshtesh

The founders knew exactly what it meant.

Naturally a citizen because they couldn’t possibly be anything else.
It was clearly understood until recent times.
See Minor Vs Happersett

Chief Justice Waite

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.”


43 posted on 07/03/2018 6:46:41 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: outpostinmass2
Jackson and Jefferson were born prior to the establishment of the United States, and were citizens at the time of its establishment, so they were eligible. As for the rest, the only one I am sure had a parent that was not naturalized was Chester Arthur. Like Obama, Arthur was ineligible to be President. If the others were naturalized, they would be in the same class as Donald Trump, whose mother was born in Scotland, but who was naturalized by the time he was born.
44 posted on 07/03/2018 6:47:02 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: outpostinmass2

That part after the comma, “or a citizen at the time of this Constitution”, grandfathered in all the early Presidents because they knew that there could not be any natural born citizen of the USA for at least 35 years.


45 posted on 07/03/2018 6:48:39 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: a little elbow grease

Too late. We already allowed a precedent to take place with Obama.

Good thing Kamala isn’t as charismatic as the Won.


46 posted on 07/03/2018 6:54:36 AM PDT by hattend
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To: CharleysPride; walkingdead; Lurkinanloomin
He admits she was born in California? Then she is a natural born citizen. Period. If you want to argue the sky is red go ahead. You won’t be taken seriously.

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No

Step in here please, walkingdead.

47 posted on 07/03/2018 6:54:50 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: a little elbow grease; Godebert; ASA Vet

ping


48 posted on 07/03/2018 6:56:43 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Bayan

Yeah yeah yeah.
You don’t even have the most vague understanding of the founders concern for undevided loyalties, and the contitution is confusing to you.

We get it.

And learning is hard.


49 posted on 07/03/2018 7:15:41 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: bgill

BOTH parties want the natural protections of the natural born citizen requirement eliminated.
They both have a stable full of ineligible candidates, most notably on the GOP side, George P. Bush.


50 posted on 07/03/2018 7:29:17 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: a little elbow grease; All

Soooo... what’s her heritage?


51 posted on 07/03/2018 9:14:00 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore)
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To: Cobra64

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She's a wild turkey with communist leanings. (That may be a male ......... so take that with a grain of corn.)

52 posted on 07/03/2018 9:35:48 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (Zip ties and duct tape are far more productive than pussy hats and #metoo tweets)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I have never understood it.

Even going forward from Obama, you should be REQUIRED to submit proof of your citizenship, when submitting papers to run for office.

But it isn’t required. I don’t understand that, except that there exists sufficient numbers of people who don’t care.


53 posted on 07/03/2018 9:57:25 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: cgbg

Yep. At this point nobody cares but people like us who rely strictly on the Constitution as the founders intended. The rest are clueless.


54 posted on 07/03/2018 11:21:13 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

And what did it get us with Obama? Obama’s birth certificate was EVEN FAKE. He had multiple Social Security numbers. At least Harris was actally born in America.

Go ahead and indulge in idiocy that can only hurt Trump. Not me. I’m not that stupid.

Go for it. Let me know when Harris is disqualified for the ballot. Liberals are supposed to be the ones who can’t follow logic, not conservatives.


55 posted on 07/03/2018 11:23:49 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

The first thing I do is get real. Obama was born overseas and faked everything and we STILL couldn’t get the nation to believe and understand.

Harris was actually born in the USA. You will never get her disqualified from the ballot. You will never convinced people she is not a naturalized citizen. All you will achieve is hurting us and getting the middle voters to swing left because they are sick of hearing this s#!$ from the right wing.

I don’t give a rats ass if its true. It probably is true that Harris is not a naturalized US citizen but that ship sailed, we shot our wad and couldn’t get it done. There is NO WAY IN HELL it is brought up again. NO WAY IN HELL.

But you go ahead and bury your head in the sand.

Like I posted to another one of you, go ahead and let me know when Harris is disqualified from the presidential ballot. Hell will freeze over first.

When you waste our time and money on stupidity, you don’t have it to fight the real battles that can be won. Thanks for nothing.


56 posted on 07/03/2018 11:28:07 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: arthurus
McCain does not qualify,

So, no children born out-of-country of US military parents qualify? That does not seem right.

57 posted on 07/03/2018 11:41:42 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed; arthurus

Of course McCain qualified. The Panama Canal Zone was US Territory. And besides that his parents were US citizens.


58 posted on 07/03/2018 11:48:41 AM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Pelham

uS Territory but not the US. Same with Puerto Rico.


59 posted on 07/03/2018 11:53:03 AM PDT by arthurus (gfgi45k88gydgfxdgh)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

You missed my point - by a mile actually.

Not sure you understand what liberty is or what it takes to be free.

This country as originally intended is worth fighting for. But fight we must due to 30 years of swamp building inside the Beltway.

I guess we come from different backgrounds and experiences. I am not about to wave the white flag and allow the communists put chains on me.

Have a happy Independence Day tomorrow.


60 posted on 07/03/2018 12:00:40 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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