[Bull Snipe]

The North endured the casualties, those casualties brought victory. Fort Donalson falls, a Confederate army surrenders, and Tennessee is open all the way to Muscle Shoals Alabama. Vicksburg falls, a second Confederate Army surrenders, the Mississippi is in Union hands and the Confederacy is split in tow. Chattanooga relieved. Braggs Army driven off. After the Overland Campaign, Lee’s Army penned in Petersburg where it will wither away to a shadow of its former self. Within the year, a third Confederate Army would surrender to U.S. Grant and the Capitol of the Confederacy is in Union hands. The Confederate government on the run, desperately trying to avoid capture. Casualties are the price of victory in war. Grant brought the Union victory in war.

[Lagmeister]

Fine... whatever. I had a direct decedent fight with George Washington (I am a member of SAR). I also had another ancestor fight in the Union army: I thank God that that ancestor wasn't with Grant, the butcher. You can overlook quite a lot... but to let wounded men lay on the battlefield for four days because you had too much pride to admit defeat shows a complete disregard for his troops and human life in general.

These are not things that simply come with winning a war. He was a butcher.