Please stop!
Dragging religion into the debate simply feeds the enemies' Domestic with fuel to change the subject.
If we can't defeat the enemies domestic with secular reason and logic, with the ages old civilization based ethics and logic, they WILL win under the current dystopic world wide pervert-led evil.
I wasn’t debating anyone, just making an observation. Besides, I refuse to debate the godless secular purely on their terms. Also, there’s no such thing as a purely “secular” debate (at least as you imply). Logic and reason are also His creation.
I agree with the quote, though, and that was my main, most logical point to the Clintonistas back in the day, both about why Hillary couldn’t be trusted (stolen FBI files) and that what Billy was doing pretty much everywhere with pretty much anything female pretty much made him imminently blackmailable.
Thus Monica was not just about sex and actually was the nation’s business. Oh, and btw, thaaanks, Bill, for those memorable dinertable conversations with the children explaining your presdential behavior with young Monica.
I was so naive. Against the Clintons, all that secular logic and reason weren’t worth doodilysquat, Josey Wales. *spit*
I think that’s about when I gave up on a “secular only” approach to anything, just didn’t know it at the time. 9/11’s parallels sealed it for me. No going back now.
Fwiw, I used to post back then about how I thought Bill and Hillary were either evil or tools of evil.
Nothing has changed my mind about the Clintons since, other than I think they are much higher up that hierarchy than I gave them credit for.