Posted on 05/26/2018 1:35:14 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
Zullo: 52:40 The president demanded that the DOJ open up an investigation . That must have unnerved people that deal with this birth certificate issue because all of a sudden my email inbox started to blow up. I got emails from the Italian corporation that did the analysis for us that people were engaging then challenging the finding, trying to get the work product, the professional report that we have not released yet, get copies, people making contact with me challenging our finding and trying to make arrangements to meet with me was most incredible.
They hit me with information the the only way you could possibly know is if you monitored my personal communication. They are making reference to things they have no way to know. What is that telling you?
Who's running scared?
You've got the president of the United States that now under his belt knows that with the stroke of his pen can order investigation. And all of a sudden people are coming out of the woodwork to challenge something that happened over a year and a half ago.
And they're trying to challenge it all over again.
They're trying to give me alternatives. We agree with you. We think everything you said is wrong, however we think have a solution. Well, that's a game.
(Excerpt) Read more at carlgallups.blogspot.com ...
BHO, Sr. and SAD were “good” for each other in that he could provide a cover story and a name for her ward while she could protect his immigration status to continue attending American schools.
Despite Abercrombie’s story, it was a sham marriage. Barry has known it for a very long time.
Yes, in 2011 citizen, businessman, democrat donor Donald J. Trump started coming out vociferously about the birther issue.
Why did Mr. Trump do this?
My research of his history shows Donald Trump from the time he was a youngster, from the time his Daddy taught him gratitude for our nation’s military. from the time he spent with the workers who were WWII veterans on his father’s construction projects, from the years he spent in the NY Military Academy, that he has always been and is and always will be fervent, without ever wavering, passionately pro-military.
Donald Trump is as pro-military, pro-America as one can get.
What he saw in Obama was a fraud, a person who had an anti-American agenda.
Donald Trump was in all his years in constant communication with veterans, with military at all levels, military folks knew you could have no better friend than Donald Trump. They told him about Obama and the Birth Certificate issue, about all the facts, details, subversive acts that covered up Obama’s real past. Trump knew instinctively like so many of us that Obama was shady at best and likely a covert traitor.
As soon as Donald Trump came out publicly about Obama and the birth certificate issue, the Obama camp descended on him. Trump was also hinting at running for President. Obama was always known, even when running for state senator, to spy and break privacy laws to get material on his opponents. It is a given that Obama did the same to Donald Trump starting around 2011.
We can infer there are yet DOJ ad FBI deep state Obama networks that are aware evidence exists showing ‘investigations’ into Donald Trump and the birth certificate issue.
Zullo said in his radio appearance that the people calling/emailing him about the birth certificate issue KNEW PERSONAL THINGS THAT ONLY ZULLO COULD KNOW, that could only be known if his conversations and emails were being monitored. By implication, that means there are still Obama agents in the deep state that can listen in on Zullo.
FURTHER, Zullo stated these persons wanted his work product and at the same time they were asking Zullo’s co-investigators for work product in a bid to find out how Zullo was able to pull it off.
FURTHER AGAIN, Zullo revealed that one of the scanned pages of birth certificate documents had a ‘smudge’ with a discernable fingerprint.
“Zullo said in his radio appearance that the people calling/emailing him about the birth certificate issue KNEW PERSONAL THINGS THAT ONLY ZULLO COULD KNOW, that could only be known if his conversations and emails were being monitored. By implication, that means there are still Obama agents in the deep state that can listen in on Zullo.”
Usually this is done to intimidate because the ordinary mode of operation when spying on someone is to not let them know you are spying on them. And the ones who tipped their hand would probably not be careless enough to reveal such details unintentionally.
On the flip side, sometimes this tactic is used to spot when being surveilled or to identify a leaker. For example, if a document contains a formatting error or a forced word wrap at the end of a line, it is possible to trace where copies come from. Hidden code can be imbedded in videos and audio recordings.
“Obama was always known, even when running for state senator, to spy and break privacy laws to get material on his opponents.”
That’s how his senate career was fast-tracked. He (or someone) had his opponent’s sealed divorce records exposed. Of course, using the office of president to spy on a citizen is a much more serious matter.
“Zullo revealed that one of the scanned pages of birth certificate documents had a ‘smudge’ with a discernable fingerprint.”
If that was truly there by accident, it could certainly shake things up. But there is a real question as to how much truth the public is willing to accept, even on the conservative side.
“Zullo said in his radio appearance that the people calling/emailing him about the birth certificate issue KNEW PERSONAL THINGS THAT ONLY ZULLO COULD KNOW, that could only be known if his conversations and emails were being monitored. By implication, that means there are still Obama agents in the deep state that can listen in on Zullo.”
Usually this is done to intimidate because the ordinary mode of operation when spying on someone is to not let them know you are spying on them. And the ones who tipped their hand would probably not be careless enough to reveal such details unintentionally.
On the flip side, sometimes this tactic is used to spot when being surveilled or to identify a leaker. For example, if a document contains a formatting error or a forced word wrap at the end of a line, it is possible to trace where copies come from. Hidden code can be imbedded in videos and audio recordings.
“Obama was always known, even when running for state senator, to spy and break privacy laws to get material on his opponents.”
That’s how his senate career was fast-tracked. He (or someone) had his opponent’s sealed divorce records exposed. Of course, using the office of president to spy on a citizen is a much more serious matter.
“Zullo revealed that one of the scanned pages of birth certificate documents had a ‘smudge’ with a discernable fingerprint.”
If that was truly there by accident, it could certainly shake things up. But there is a real question as to how much truth the public is willing to accept, even on the conservative side.
It’s on Trump’s to do list sometime during his administration days.
> “Zullo revealed that one of the scanned pages of birth certificate documents had a ‘smudge’ with a discernable fingerprint.”
> “If that was truly there by accident, it could certainly shake things up. But there is a real question as to how much truth the public is willing to accept, even on the conservative side.”
1. We can be assured Zullo has had that smudge for years.
2. We can bet that Zullo is no dummy.
The two items above lead us to believe the ‘smudge’ was an accident, just part of the sloppiness with which much of the rest of the document forgery was carried out.
What the liar media leads their viewers, which many mistakenly refer to as ‘the public’, to believe is immaterial if Zullo has tracked down via the fingerprint the person behind the forgery, possibly detaining the person or at least done a full confirmation of the fingerprint and the person and the context of both in the forgery, together with a full investigatory background check on that person. If item 2. above is true, Zullo has done this and is certain that the facts are known.
Furthermore, Zullo said in the radio interview that the revealing of the fingerprint is but a small part of what is yet to be revealed.
My inference is the actors behind the birth certificate, including Fuddy’s disappearance or murder or coverup, call it what one will, are in a state of panic, a panic so intense they are making mistakes left and right in an attempt to know what Zullo knows and how he knows it, so they can prepare a defense or false narrative such as the spy was not a spy but rather an informant placed to protect Trump and his people from the evil Russians.
Agree that letting slip facts of monitoring Zullo to Zullo was a form of intimidation.
Is there anything tangible that you know or even can surmise to understand that a smudged, discernible fingerprint proves something nefarious in the BC saga?
I can imagine lots of reasons a smudged fingerprint would be nothing to get excited about.
If it were Obama’s print, what? He handled it? So what?
If it were Onaka’s, what? He handled at it? So what?
If it were Bob Bauer’s, what? He handled it? So what?
Ping to a critical item that Zullo revealed Friday picked up by FReeper Hostage (see his comment #46), which is that there was an actual fingerprint discovered by the CCP team! That should pucker the Deep State and the Fogblowers but good, well at least one of them.
(Hey, it was late at night when I put this thread up! I thought the “fingerprint” referred to by Gallups was allegorical Deep State hype, not real, jaded as I have gotten by now!)
Actual title of Carl Gallups podcast is:
Mike Zullo - “We might have a fingerprint,” “Deep state contacting me, right after Pres. Trump orders DOJ to investigate FBI and Obama?”
Thanks for the ping, Seize. One thing we know: the DS is wildly nervous about something Zullo-related. They wouldn’t be blowing up his Inbox otherwise.
Zullo has overseen multiple forensics and examinations of the documents involved and he has declared them as forgeries with 100% likelihood, IOW a certainty.
He said in the interview that the document was scanned and copied multiple times and that on one iteration the ‘smudge’ with fingerprint appeared.
That means the smudge with fingerprint was part of the forgery process.
Now I think what Freeper ‘unlearner’ was alluding to was the possibility that the fingerprint was possibly ‘planted’ deliberately to lead investigators on a wild goose chase possibly to an innocent.
But I don’t think so. I don’t think so because I have heard Zullo over the years and I know this guy is wise to the types of games criminals play. He is indeed a sharp detective and as a seasoned law enforcement officer he always thinks of the downside. What do I mean by ‘downside’?
Any good lawyer, any good detective will know you have to always think of that which is negative to your case. By that I mean if you get excited by a piece of evidence you have to quell your excitement and think of the downside; how will the judge rule? Why was the evidence there for you to find? Etc.
So I am confident that Zullo is revealing this small piece of evidence because all the background checks are completed and the timing is right. We are led to think they got someone at the scene of the crime.
Wittingly.
Doesn’t that pertain to what a human or group of humans know?
I submit that if millions, or hundreds of millions of Americans are monitored by AI, not by humans, then humans are not “wittingly” monitoring them.
interesting thought...
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Exactly. Crossfire is going to be shown to have started in 2011 when it was thought the Donald would run for 2012. Keep in mind that the name Crossfire comes from spying across agencies, something only the President can order.
The NYT reported it as "Crossfire Hurricane" because the Hurricane didn't start until it looked like Trump was the presumptive nominee. But Crossfire was already on the books.
Bump
Trump was the only one who brought it up.
And I think it will be exposed.
That’s what I think as well.
Thanks Seizethecarp.
Ping to a critical item that Zullo revealed Friday picked up by FReeper Hostage (see his comment (#46), which is that there was an actual fingerprint discovered by the CCP team!
Also see #50 by Hostage, as well as article/ comments.
Thanks to Seizethecarp and Hostage.
Right. Know doubt in my mind that the deep state lied up and down about Obama. Trump now has the means and the opportunity; he’ll do it at some point. Obama couldn’t do the simple act of presenting his birth certificate to a court of law. Instead he must have spent a small fortune having Perkins & Coe and other law firms defend and hide his birf certificate from the law.
A simple act of showing the birth certificate to get driver’s licenses, but Obama couldn’t show it. For a president that is inexcusable. The dumb trolls here and there would use the stupid and the pathetic excuse that the court never asked Obama to present it. We know the courts acted like cowards so they too were under the opinion that Obama was hiding and lying all the way.
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