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Saddam al-Jamal Captured! And More Tortured Logic
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-15-18 | Wordsmith

Posted on 05/15/2018 5:14:10 PM PDT by Starman417

This monster:

The ISIS commander behind the brutal execution of a Jordanian pilot who was burned to death in a cage in 2015 is among the four senior ISIS leaders captured last week in Iraq.

Saddam al-Jamal is one of the most senior ISIS commanders to be detained so far and was tipped as a future leader of the death cult.

He gained a reputation for brutality as an ISIS commander with a taste for personally beheading prisoners.

The Jordanian security services believe he masterminded the brutal killing of downed pilot Muath al-Kasasbeh in 2015.

Al-Kasasbeh was a Royal Jordanian Air Force pilot who was shot down in Raqqa, Syria, in December 2014.

A few weeks later, ISIS released a video online showing the 26-year-old being burned alive in a cage – in images that shocked the world.

I had watched that video.  Absolutely horrifying.  Sick.  Enraging.

Al-Jamal has been accused of a series of atrocities, including taking part in a massacre in the Syrian province of Deir Ezzor in 2014 which killed 700 members of a tribe that rose up against ISIS.

He had previously been a commander in the Free Syrian Army and then leader of a western-allied ‘moderate’ Islamist group called Ahfab al-Rasoul.

Al-Jamal is said to have ordered the execution of children, sometimes in front of their parents.

In 2014, Iraqi officials claimed that al-Jamal had murdered an entire family after the parents prevented the daughter from marrying him.

Gruesome images released on social media show him gleefully posing with a collection of charred severed heads.

He was one of four leaders of ISIS captured by Iraqi security forces after they were lured from Syria to Iraq with fake Telegram messages.

What would a fitting punishment be for this monster, if he in fact is responsible for the tortured execution of Muath al-Kasasbeh?  At best, "live by the sword, die by the sword" and let him be burned alive in a cage to experience the painful death al-Kasabeh experienced.  Why?  Don't we become the monster we fight when we resort to the same?  No.  Even though I admit It would be satisfying to know he died painfully- perhaps know some of the emotions of fear and horror that his victims most likely felt, it's more about making future killers think twice about how they carry out their violence if they were made to know that their punishment will be as severe if not worse than what they visit upon their victims.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind?  No.  An eye for "turn the other cheek" only makes me partially blind.

At worst?  Hand him over to the Jordanians and let them try, convict, and meet out justice.

Although, Iraqis have plenty cause for justice to meet out, themselves.

Spreading terror has worked before for ISIS, allowing it to punch above its weight. In the weeks before launching an assault on Mosul, Iraq, in June, the group released a series of gory videosshowing the militants brutalizing and killing Iraqi soldiers they had captured. It put the scare in the Iraqi army. When ISIS fighters attacked Mosul, Iraqi soldiers turned and fled despite greatly outnumbering the attackers.
And Syrians:

And meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic,  counter-terrorism expert Malcolm Nance has taken umbrage with Tim Kennedy's jovial and jocular waterboard demonstration:

“Wrong. That’s not how it’s done. You’re just holding your breath,” Malcolm Nance wrote to former UFC fighter and Green Beret Tim Kennedy on Twitter.

“As a former SERE instructor #Waterboarding qual’d resistance team member I can tell you it’s about aggression, intent, tiedown, pour technique, rate of flow & other factors. It’s a Nazis/Commie torture. Deal w/it,” Nance added.

There's no evidence that either the Nazis or the Soviets used the technique, according to another torture expert, Darius Rejali, a professor at Reed College in Oregon.

"You're holding your beath"?!

According to the Bradbury memo:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: torture; waterboarding
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1 posted on 05/15/2018 5:14:11 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Great post. Thanks.


2 posted on 05/15/2018 5:16:09 PM PDT by PGalt
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Hand him over to the King of Jordan with a great big bow tied around him.

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3 posted on 05/15/2018 5:18:35 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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Aren’t these just the moderate rebels/freedom fighters McCain and Graham backed?


4 posted on 05/15/2018 5:19:17 PM PDT by LukeL
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Saddam al-Jamal should have his arms and legs surgically removed. Rip out his tongue and gouge out his eyes. Leave him as a lump of flesh but keep his ears in perfect working order so he can hear the screams of woman when this see his hideous mass.

Credits to Westley of Princes Bride.


5 posted on 05/15/2018 5:20:29 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: LukeL

Yes, and surely ISIS has used weapons that have been sent to them via US Taxpayer.


6 posted on 05/15/2018 5:22:07 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: Starman417

Now give him the same Deep Fryer treatment and see how he likes it. Above all, do not drag him over here to the USA and make him our problem. Scores of wannabe-jihadist will plan ways to break him out of jail. Can you imagine the anger and the panic should that happen? Keep him off of our shores completely!!


7 posted on 05/15/2018 5:26:01 PM PDT by lee martell
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Give him to the Jordanians.


8 posted on 05/15/2018 5:28:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: lee martell

Let Jordan have him.


9 posted on 05/15/2018 5:28:58 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Starman417

The New York Daily News is deeply saddened


10 posted on 05/15/2018 5:31:01 PM PDT by longsufferingjetsfan
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To: Starman417

Feed him to a bunch of hungry Nile Salt Water crocodiles.


11 posted on 05/15/2018 5:34:14 PM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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Hey Haji, we’re coming to get you.


12 posted on 05/15/2018 5:41:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Wood chipper running at half speed sounds about right.


13 posted on 05/15/2018 5:48:26 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Starman417
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14 posted on 05/15/2018 5:51:53 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Leave him staked out for a bunch of hungry pitbulls.


15 posted on 05/15/2018 5:52:53 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Newbomb Turk

or granny gear


16 posted on 05/15/2018 5:55:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TLI

Body shutting down?

Let me help.

Atropine.


17 posted on 05/15/2018 5:59:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Starman417

Just saw an article that Hillary and Obama’s moderate Muslim turned the weapons H and O gave them over to Alqueda. Democrats do so much good for our country.


18 posted on 05/15/2018 6:11:14 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvete)
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To: Starman417

The next time one feels compelled to feel bad for dying McCain, understand that the support of ISIS is his foreign policy endeavor funded by Obama’s Administration.


19 posted on 05/15/2018 6:15:05 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: PGalt

McCain supported this creep


20 posted on 05/15/2018 6:31:34 PM PDT by nikos1121
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