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Saddam al-Jamal Captured! And More Tortured Logic
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-15-18 | Wordsmith

Posted on 05/15/2018 5:14:10 PM PDT by Starman417

This monster:

The ISIS commander behind the brutal execution of a Jordanian pilot who was burned to death in a cage in 2015 is among the four senior ISIS leaders captured last week in Iraq.

Saddam al-Jamal is one of the most senior ISIS commanders to be detained so far and was tipped as a future leader of the death cult.

He gained a reputation for brutality as an ISIS commander with a taste for personally beheading prisoners.

The Jordanian security services believe he masterminded the brutal killing of downed pilot Muath al-Kasasbeh in 2015.

Al-Kasasbeh was a Royal Jordanian Air Force pilot who was shot down in Raqqa, Syria, in December 2014.

A few weeks later, ISIS released a video online showing the 26-year-old being burned alive in a cage – in images that shocked the world.

I had watched that video.  Absolutely horrifying.  Sick.  Enraging.

Al-Jamal has been accused of a series of atrocities, including taking part in a massacre in the Syrian province of Deir Ezzor in 2014 which killed 700 members of a tribe that rose up against ISIS.

He had previously been a commander in the Free Syrian Army and then leader of a western-allied ‘moderate’ Islamist group called Ahfab al-Rasoul.

Al-Jamal is said to have ordered the execution of children, sometimes in front of their parents.

In 2014, Iraqi officials claimed that al-Jamal had murdered an entire family after the parents prevented the daughter from marrying him.

Gruesome images released on social media show him gleefully posing with a collection of charred severed heads.

He was one of four leaders of ISIS captured by Iraqi security forces after they were lured from Syria to Iraq with fake Telegram messages.

What would a fitting punishment be for this monster, if he in fact is responsible for the tortured execution of Muath al-Kasasbeh?  At best, "live by the sword, die by the sword" and let him be burned alive in a cage to experience the painful death al-Kasabeh experienced.  Why?  Don't we become the monster we fight when we resort to the same?  No.  Even though I admit It would be satisfying to know he died painfully- perhaps know some of the emotions of fear and horror that his victims most likely felt, it's more about making future killers think twice about how they carry out their violence if they were made to know that their punishment will be as severe if not worse than what they visit upon their victims.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind?  No.  An eye for "turn the other cheek" only makes me partially blind.

At worst?  Hand him over to the Jordanians and let them try, convict, and meet out justice.

Although, Iraqis have plenty cause for justice to meet out, themselves.

Spreading terror has worked before for ISIS, allowing it to punch above its weight. In the weeks before launching an assault on Mosul, Iraq, in June, the group released a series of gory videosshowing the militants brutalizing and killing Iraqi soldiers they had captured. It put the scare in the Iraqi army. When ISIS fighters attacked Mosul, Iraqi soldiers turned and fled despite greatly outnumbering the attackers.
And Syrians:

And meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic,  counter-terrorism expert Malcolm Nance has taken umbrage with Tim Kennedy's jovial and jocular waterboard demonstration:

“Wrong. That’s not how it’s done. You’re just holding your breath,” Malcolm Nance wrote to former UFC fighter and Green Beret Tim Kennedy on Twitter.

“As a former SERE instructor #Waterboarding qual’d resistance team member I can tell you it’s about aggression, intent, tiedown, pour technique, rate of flow & other factors. It’s a Nazis/Commie torture. Deal w/it,” Nance added.

There's no evidence that either the Nazis or the Soviets used the technique, according to another torture expert, Darius Rejali, a professor at Reed College in Oregon.

"You're holding your beath"?!

According to the Bradbury memo:

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To: Starman417

Give him to King Abdullah so the King can push him out of a plane at 13,000 feet.


21 posted on 05/15/2018 6:32:07 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Starman417

This article makes my day.

Turn them over to Syria.
Assad will know what to do with them.


22 posted on 05/15/2018 6:44:56 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: tennmountainman

I meant give him to Jordan.


23 posted on 05/15/2018 6:46:52 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: Lurker

“Hand him over to the King of Jordan with a great big bow tied around him.”

Its like you read my mind...


24 posted on 05/15/2018 8:05:04 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Starman417

He is property of the King of Jordan. He has dibbs.


25 posted on 05/15/2018 8:09:44 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Starman417

Let Jordan have him to dispense justice. It was their pilot, who was in uniform when captured, whom they tortured and killed.


26 posted on 05/16/2018 4:32:35 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The MSM is the enemy of the American people)
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