For nice long-form banter; see
Joe Rogan Experience w/ Jordan Peterson #958 (May 2017) https://youtu.be/USg3NR76XpQ 2:57:30 and JRE w/ Jordan Peterson Episode #1070 (January 2018) https://youtu.be/6T7pUEZfgdI (2:28:32)
Jordan Peterson BUMP