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To: nonsporting
Haven't you read,

they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
Rom 10:2-4.

or

those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:17.

or

God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God. For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we have become the righteousness of God in Him.
2 Cor 5:19-21.

Practising sodomites (fornicators, idolators, adulterers

Of whom Jesus is a Friend. Jesus is "a friend of sinners." The only group he rebuked were the self-righteous, condescending, condemning Pharisees.

How does SCRIPTURE say you fall from grace? By sinning? NO!

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace.
Galatians 5:4.

A person falls from grace when he tries to be justified by the works of the law - Christ is no effect to him then.

20 posted on 04/17/2018 11:44:18 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
If someone still walks in the darkness of his former life, he needs to seriously reconsider what he has believed and why it doesn't have a transformative impact on his life. If he believed, then he will understand that he has been "washed" and "sanctified."
Such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:11)

A sodomite that continues to live in his filthy sodomite lifestyle is not saved. He has not "submitted to the righteousness of God" and is still "seeking to establish his own righteousness."

21 posted on 04/17/2018 12:01:48 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Jim 0216
How does SCRIPTURE say you fall from grace? By sinning? NO! Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace. Galatians 5:4. A person falls from grace when he tries to be justified by the works of the law - Christ is no effect to him then.

This is true, and the warning here is clearly to those who had been born again (Gal. 4:6; cf. Heb. 3:12) but since works incontrovertibly manifest what we believe, then one who impenitently practices unrighteousness evidences he does not truly believe in the Lord Jesus, any more than one can claim to believe in Reagan was a good president and yet support Communism.

Luther himself taught, Luther himself rejected the idea that a faith which did not effect characteristic obedience was salvific, stating,

faith is a living and an essential thing, which makes a new creature of man, changes his spirit...

Faith cannot help doing good works constantly...

if faith be true, it will break forth and bear fruit...

where there is no faith there also can be no good works; and conversely, that there is no faith.. where there are no good works. Therefore faith and good works should be so closely joined together that the essence of the entire Christian life consists in both.

if obedience and Gods commandments do not dominate you, then the work is not right, but damnable, surely the devils own doings, although it were even so great a work as to raise the dead.. .

if you continue in pride and lewdness, in greed and anger, and yet talk much of faith, St. Paul will come and say, 1 Cor. 4:20, look here my dear Sir, "the kingdom of God is not in word but in power." It requires life and action, and is not brought about by mere talk.

Works are necessary for salvation [as evidential fruit], but they do not cause salvation...

faith casts itself on God, and breaks forth and becomes certain through its works...

faith must be exercised, worked and polished; be purified by fire...

it is impossible for him who believes in Christ, as a just Savior, not to love and to do good. If, however, he does not do good nor love, it is sure that faith is not present...

where the works are absent, there is also no Christ...

References by God's grace.

35 posted on 04/18/2018 6:43:47 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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