[Who is John Galt?]

Not everyone needs full auto, or the "best" cartridge. I love 9mm ARs: they're fairly simple mechanically (blowback operated), relatively cheap to shoot (kind of an "adult plinker" ;>), share most of the controls with rifle-caliber ARs, and have some practical potential for self defense. And currently prices are down, while options/availability are up...

;>)

[Vaquero]

I have fun with my m1 carbine. .30 carbine is a fun little cartridge. It’s got a little more oomph than a 9mm but zero recoil. Very similar. Dad carried one throughout the Pacific Island hopping campaign during WW2.

If I was in a close in jungle situation fighting 100 lb Japanese soldiers who were wearing thin tropics clothing it would be ok. For a long range /city/large heavily winter dressed, 200 pound enemy? I would want something a bit heavier.