Posted on 12/24/2017 5:44:46 AM PST by marktwain
That will be my plea if this were ever to happen to me.
>>How often do you forget where you left your gun?
Never. If my mind ever degenerates enough that I do start to forget, I will stop carrying one. Because if I can’t remember where my gun is, then I certainly doubt my ability to properly discern threats, verify the safety of the people in the background, and to handle the gun effectively.
>>Had to look up scram. Not something you run across every day.
Even if you are sitting in front of the control panel, it isn’t something you do every day either.
That’s why the command was quite pissed that I did it by accident.
The only people who do not make mistakes are those who do nothing.
We can minimize mistakes, but making a mistake is simply a matter of time.
There were over 3,300 people who were found to have a firearm in their carry-on baggage.
THat is out of 100 million gun owners and 17 million people with concealed carry permits.
It is a very low error rate.
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One option is to simply use a SEPARATE BAG for carrying a firearm...and use that bag for nothing else. That would probably take care of 90% plus of these incidents.
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And another, nay, the PROPER ‘option’ would be to recognize\uphold our 2nd A. Rights (nobody’s brought up that BS case of ‘incorporating’ when it comes to 2nd A. Rights vs. ‘gay marriage’).
Saddening, and frankly, quite sickening, how acquiescing We the People have become. But jack an ATM fee $.50...*SMH*
You may not agree, but I think the discretion in not prosecuting is a way of recognizing 2nd Amendment rights.
I know this will bother 99.9% of FReepers, but I agree with TSA screening people getting on airplanes and prohibiting guns - as I want to get to my destinations safely, and the same for my family.
Many of them don't know that.
If you forget that a gun is in your bag, how effective is it in self-defense? I don’t think this politician should get a jail sentence. But she should get a clue.
>>THat is out of 100 million gun owners and 17 million people with concealed carry permits.
>>It is a very low error rate.
But that is not the correct population figure. You need to compare that 3300 to people who a) can legally carry concealed b) actually DO routinely carry concealed c) then measure the number of times that those people fly and compare that to the 3300 to find a legitimate failure rate.
just attended a legal class here. BE VERY CARFEUL in Denver airport. The security zone extends beyond the TSA area but it is deliberately, i assume, not well marked unless you look for it. i think it extends through the shops are but not sure. also be very careful around park parking lots next to schools. The parking lot of Clements park is "rented" by Columbine High School so, during school hours, it is considered school property. Also Denver has more restricted laws than the surrounding counties which is no surprise to those of us living here.
I was returning from overseas as an active duty service member at the time. This was quite a few years ago. I had my POW (Read: Privately Owned Weapon) legally checked in my checked luggage in accordance with Delta Airlines policy. The firearm was in a locked container with no ammo. My checked kit bag had a red tag on it clearly marked “Fire Arm” with appropriate numbers that the airline required at the time.
Upon arriving at JFK I picked up my kit bag at the international terminal and had to carry it to the domestic terminal for my flight home. Of course this change required my bag to go through the xray machine again. I of course had my paperwork readily available for the TSA agent screening the bag. Keep in mind, there was this red tag on the bag indicating “Fire Arm”. I went through the personal screen and waited for my bag.
The next thing I heard from this female agent looking through the xray machine was “Gun! Gun! Gun! Gun! Gun! as about 5 police officers descended on the scene with drawn weapons and passagers unsure weather to hit the floor or run for the exits. I just stood there as I was required to id the bag as mine and feeling like a fool. They took me off to the side, looked over my paperwork and opened my bag. They then proceeded to inspect my fire arm to ensure it was unloaded and no ammo was in the bag. Of course I had to but all my belongings back in the bag that were strewn all over this counter top. It took about 30 minutes for them to verify that the paperwork from Delta Airlines and my military id card were valid and I damn near missed my next flight home.
This is a perfect example of totally poor coordination between local, federal, and airline agents.
If you check a fire arm legally be prepared.
An Air Force official in the audience asked, "How come they never crash? How come we never find any wreckage?"
The speaker replied, "Maybe their Zero Defects program really works."
>>The speaker replied, “Maybe their Zero Defects program really works.”
A civilization of evolved Navy Nucs! That’s why they are so advanced. LOL
Paging Barry Switzer to the white courtesy phone.
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