“...Let Chuck and Nancy have their government shutdown...”
Agree. Let the bare bones essential gov’t functions continue and the bloated bureaucracy that is the US federal government will be unmasked for all to see.
I was not aware that the Dems had won the Senate.
The Republicans have a 47 seat majority in the House, a 2 seat majority in the Senate, and the White House. Why is this Chuck and Nancy's shutdown and not Mitch and Paul's?
President Trump: "Okay. Terrific! Thanks for coming by."
Use political ju-jitsu...use their own “weight” against them. Sometimes, when people are pushing hard against you, the best play is to just “move”, and let them fall on their face.
If their purported “consequences” have no effect, then their ploy was for naught.
Shut it down, the only people it’s really a crisis to, are the dems in congress (and perhaps the media)...but only the media can create a “media frenzy”.
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.
Shutting it down would have many benefits. Saving the tax dollar. Showing we don’t need 89.5% of it. Putting the ball back in the whiny demonrats’ court.
IMO schumer and pelosi are amateurs at negotiating compared to president trump, he will chew them up and spit them out for breakfast...
*Some military personnel exempted.
Actually, I’d love to see a government shutdown. With a President Trump, we could see one done right. He could demonstrate just what has to be continued and what can be shut right down. He could show what real fairness looks like without all the bureaucratic rules hemming him in as much as usual. Let this be a big teaching experience taught by the best professor of government - a user of it and not a lifelong dependent.
May I be pedantic for a mo?
Aaaaargh. The government does NOT shut down. Amazingly large portions of Fedzilla are deemed essential and continue functioning. Damn it.
We won’t default, either, since we can still make our debt payments with the cash coming in every month.
Shutdown? I wish.
let make these Rep & Senate positions only part time jobs,, say 5 days a month at best,, and only telecommute in to DC to save the environment. .
If there is a shut down, Trump should use it to send a bunch of useless government employees home for good.
Go for the shutdown.
BTW: when I get furloughed, I don’t get paid - and don’t expect gov’t bureaucrats to either.
Great. All non-essential employees could then be sent home. This time, provide a box for their belongings and clock them out one last time. Don’t let the door hit you in the asp.
I am certain that the non-essential slugs would love an extended “paid” Festivus Break. Total garbage.
Shutting government down because illegals are NOT made citizens doesn’t seem like a winning strategy.
If by some odd chance that happened I’m sure Trump will get the blame where it belongs, too many folks seem to be waking up to the left’s antics.
Let it shut down.
AND DO NOT GIVE THEM ALL A FREE PAID VACATION.
No work, no pay.
I agree. Shut it down. The longer it is shut down and nobody notices, the better case it makes for cutting the size of gubmint.
Usually, very few people are affected by a government shutdown, aside from the politicians and the fake news reporters.
I was just wondering how many REAL Americans sympathize with sChmukie and SanFran Nan shutting down the government in order to benefit a bunch of illegal alien "dreamers"? Besides, don't they know that a government shutdown will delay the dreamers' welfare checks?
If we had a federal government that respected its constitutionally limited powers, a government shutdown would arguably mean little more than an interruption of the U.S. Mail Service (1.8.7).
In other words, most domestic federal government services and social spending programs are based on state powers and state revenues the the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds have stolen from the states, state revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me
The remedy to unconstitutionally big federal government …
Patriots need to finish the job that they started by electing Trump president in 2016.
More specifically, patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of state sovereignty-respecting, Pres. Trump-supporting patriot candidate lawmakers on the 2018 primary ballots, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriots candidate lawmakers to D.C. on election day.