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To: Yaelle
In the 1930s everyone in Los Angeles spoke English with an American twang,

Can you perhaps explain why people from L.A. used (in the 30s and 40s) to pronounce the name of their city "Los AN-gel-eez" (with a hard "g"), while today it is pronounced "Los AN-jel-iss?"

Likewise Honolulu: Used to be pronounced "Hon-uh-LOO-luh," and is now pronounced "Hon-uh-LOO-LOO."

Regards,

9 posted on 12/02/2017 9:33:34 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Ha Ha Ha my mom used to say Los AnGeleez. She was the only one. I used to look at her weird. No idea where that came from!


15 posted on 12/02/2017 9:44:55 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: alexander_busek
...and is now pronounced "Hon-uh-LOO-LOO."

Or, as the majority would say, "Hon-uh-ROO-ROO".


20 posted on 12/02/2017 9:54:30 AM PST by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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To: alexander_busek
Can you perhaps explain why people from L.A. used (in the 30s and 40s) to pronounce the name of their city "Los AN-gel-eez" (with a hard "g"), while today it is pronounced "Los AN-jel-iss?"

Sam Yorty, LA's last great mayor, who ran City Hall from 1961 to 1973, pronounced it "los Angle-liss."

Early in the twentieth century, one of the local newspapers tried to get readers to use the Spanish pronounciation for the name of the city, but they didn't have much success.

23 posted on 12/02/2017 10:01:30 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: alexander_busek
Can you perhaps explain why people from L.A. used (in the 30s and 40s) to pronounce the name of their city "Los AN-gel-eez" (with a hard "g"), while today it is pronounced "Los AN-jel-iss?"

Great question. I'm not the person who knows, but it seems like the hard g was common with Midwesterners who moved to Southern California. Later on, East Coasters brought the soft g.

That's my hypothesis anyway, and it may be completely wrong. Neither corresponds to the Spanish pronunciation. Maybe that's where the problem came from.

Maybe early arrivals tried what they thought was the Spanish pronunciation but could only manage a g rather than an h, and later arrivals didn't bother with either, but just pronounced it like in US English. The sound of "Los" also changed from a long to a short o.

Jack Webb did a lot to make the current pronunciation standard. If you've got the time and energy, there may be enough broadcasts on Youtube that you could trace the changes.

74 posted on 12/02/2017 11:57:57 AM PST by x
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To: alexander_busek

“I had to shoot him, judge, my wife was in danger.”
“Mr Redd, our records say you are not married.”
“Didn’t say I was.”
“Are you Mr John Redd, of Hawaii?”
“Yes. Honowuwu.”



80 posted on 12/02/2017 12:13:02 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: alexander_busek

Then maybe you can tell me why people who don’t live in my state, New Jersey , think we all pronounce it ‘’Joisey’’. We don’t. If anything people here in The Garden State have no discernible accents. Now go across the Hudson to NYC and there are accents aplenty!


85 posted on 12/02/2017 12:37:07 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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