[Mr Rogers]

“We have to get rid of the “Bang! You’re dead” mentality.”

Very true. Unless you hit the nervous system, the person you shoot can - not will, but can - keep fighting for another 10-30 seconds. That is true even if you shoot them in the heart.

Many lesser fatal wounds can take minutes to kill, during which the attacker can still fight. Many don’t...but those who do can fire a lot of bullets or stab a lot of times in 30 seconds.

I carry a 5-shot J-frame and can’t hit squat while moving, so my plan is shoot once, move. Repeat as needed.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Very true. Unless you hit the nervous system, the person you shoot can - not will, but can - keep fighting for another 10-30 seconds. That is true even if you shoot them in the heart.

I always shake my head when I see someone in a movie get stabbed. They drop dead instantly no matter where they get stabbed.

[metmom]

Unless you hit the nervous system, the person you shoot can - not will, but can - keep fighting for another 10-30 seconds. That is true even if you shoot them in the heart.

Well, now, that may be the case but I wonder how many men would be able to keep going getting shot by the granny in post 9?

Clearly there are better places to aim than the heart to stop a guy.

[familyop]

"Unless you hit the nervous system, the person you shoot can - not will, but can - keep fighting for another 10-30 seconds. That is true even if you shoot them in the heart."

A man could be killed by another man's fists within far less than 30 seconds, so a knife at the scene should not be a prerequisite to a good shoot. IMO, officers need double-wide, motorized wheelchairs with machine guns mounted on them...and automatic grenade launchers for multiple persons of interest...and snacks for enough energy to do all of that.

;-)

[familyop]

More sincerely, I’m getting old. But too many people of all kinds are getting into terrible physical shape. It’s sad to see them slow down and die so young from so many diseases. It’s also especially hard for police, who often work odd hours, lack sleep and are stuck too many hours in cruisers. Very difficult that way, to motivate oneself to get in shape after a shift (too drowsy).

So PT (physical training) is needed (even for old folks). We’re much more likely to croak early from a disease or other medical condition than from being shot, and that includes police.

Listen to the man. He lived to be 96.

Jack LaLanne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_lalane

[anton]

I’ve watched about 100 “armed robber gets shot” videos on Youtube from Active Self Protection and there might have been one where the perp did something other than bite dirt after a body mass shot.