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1 posted on 10/01/2017 8:16:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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there will an untold number of accidents from this and they will be bad.

Why you ask?

The owner of the self-driving car will not wear a seat belt because he believes the car cannot have an accident.

Mark my words.

Just because something is possible to do, does not mean that it should be done.


2 posted on 10/01/2017 8:19:29 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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35,092 vehicle accident deaths occurred in 2015.

How long will it take to save millions of lives ?


3 posted on 10/01/2017 8:21:32 PM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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so there it is....taking away our freedom....its bad enough that they put the black recorder boxes in cars and not we won't be able to drive them...

and our lovely pubs just go along with it...

4 posted on 10/01/2017 8:23:00 PM PDT by cherry
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Of all the issues that this country is facing, this is what they’re working on????
The stupid is strong in the UniParty’s swamp.


6 posted on 10/01/2017 8:28:29 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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Who would actually buy one of these?

The fewer bots on my car, the better. The last thing I want is for them to drive me around; the last thing.


7 posted on 10/01/2017 8:30:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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A joke from a relative:

If Apple makes a self-driving car, would it have windows?


9 posted on 10/01/2017 8:31:32 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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Exactly what they shouldn’t be doing. Nothing....infrastructure, insurance companies, drivers, law enforcement...nothing and nobody is ready for this.


10 posted on 10/01/2017 8:33:08 PM PDT by clintonh8r (AMERICA! THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY SCREEN NAME OBSOLETE!)
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wait.. the senate finally gets around to passing something and this is all they could think of?!??!


12 posted on 10/01/2017 8:40:11 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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This is idiotic

There are judges and cabinet members to confirm and a tax reform to work on


13 posted on 10/01/2017 8:42:08 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Traditional vehicles will be banned from public roadways, autonomous vehicles will be rented, not owned and your every travel will be documented in some database.


14 posted on 10/01/2017 8:44:19 PM PDT by fso301
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Yeah, I can hear it now.......

“It was the Russians that hacked into my Cars computer, they caused my accident! I demand an investigation by performed.


19 posted on 10/01/2017 8:59:31 PM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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While this Senate action is arguably a good idea, it remains that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the corrupt feds the specific power to make such laws.

In other words, this Senate action is another example of the already unconstitutionally big federal government unconstitutionally expanding its powers even more.

Thomas Jefferson and James Madison had warned patriots to be on their guard against the feds unconstitutionally expanding their powers.

Patriots need to pink-slip as many career lawmakers as they can in the 2018 elections, replacing them with state sovereignty-respecting patriots who aren’t scared to petition the states for new constitutional powers as lawmakers should be doing on many issues, including healthcare.

In the meanwhile, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the primary ballots.

22 posted on 10/01/2017 9:04:53 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Just like cell phones and everything connected to the Internet so to self-driving cars will be Internet connected (all the traffic systems traffic data) and hackers WILL learn how to crack and access the operating systems of the self-driving cars and insert bugs and malicious viruses into them.

At some point there will be busy stretch of highway with thousands of cars on it and suddenly hundreds of them will go wildly out or control, at the same time, due to some bug, creating multiple chain reaction accidents involving hundreds of cars - just as malicious bus HAVE DONE in computer systems across the globe.

Insurance companies will suddenly have ample reason for massive insurance premium increases on all self-driving cars, because though the rate of such occurrences will remain unknown, the damages relative to them will be huge.

The “safety” of them long term DEPENDS on every spec of driver and road data available be deposited in databases to “control” traffic, avoid bottlenecks and hazards and IT WILL include your identity and every detail of where you are with your car. You will not be able to turn it all off without turning of the “self-driving” function.

As far as I am concerned, that data collection is its real purpose, and selling it as “safer” is an excuse for adopting another “we don’t need the humans” tool of the arrogant technologists.


23 posted on 10/01/2017 9:06:26 PM PDT by Wuli
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Hold my Beer! What could go wrong?


26 posted on 10/01/2017 9:17:54 PM PDT by rpkgolf
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this legislation should be called the “Lawyer Full Employment Act” since autos are so safe now from a design and manufacturing perspective that the only reasonably possible lawsuit is against driver error.

With so-called “driverless” cars the only possible target for a lawsuit is the manufacturer in the event of any kind of accident.


27 posted on 10/01/2017 9:19:18 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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leaving aside the miryad frightening technical issues, when the “self-”driving car takes you somewhere or someway you don’t want to go, will it obey your command to stop?

and if you take it somewhere it doesn’t want to go, what will the powers in authority (i.e., the senate) do about that?

and if it doesn’t work out, who is going to be banned from driving the road, the self-driving cars or self-conscious, sentient beings?

these people need to be reminded of kubrick’s 2001 A Space Odyssey. this senate is both anti-goodwill and anti-freewill to man, but what else is new. uniparty leftists run amok.


28 posted on 10/01/2017 9:25:13 PM PDT by dadfly
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Hackable. Will be a nightmare.


30 posted on 10/01/2017 9:25:59 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Screw The NFL!!!!!! My family fought for the flag!)
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Hey when corporate lobbyists and money are involved, these guys can move their asses.


32 posted on 10/01/2017 9:31:30 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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Yet another shining example of corporate America, writing the rules.


33 posted on 10/01/2017 9:31:43 PM PDT by qaz123
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Thank God! I was really concerned that this Congress was not getting anything accomplished!


36 posted on 10/01/2017 9:50:00 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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