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The Navy – It’s Not a Job, It’s a Total Cluster
US Defense Watch ^ | September 7, 2017 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 09/07/2017 7:38:15 PM PDT by pboyington

The US Navy, the mighty and heroic service that beat the tar out of America’s enemies for 240 years; the force that won brilliant victories at Midway, Manila Bay, Leyte Gulf, Lake Erie and a thousand other places is no more.

The US Navy that refused to surrender and ‘had not begun to fight’ under the leadership of John Paul Jones, is now too incompetent to fight anyone; and every American should be seriously concerned.

To paraphrase Oliver Perry, “We have met the enemy and it is cultural Marxism and social engineering.”

The latest debacle to engulf the Navy was reported yesterday in a myriad of media outlets.

According to Fox News:

The majority of ships operating in the U.S. Navy’s Seventh Fleet, where two destroyers have been involved in fatal collisions since June, weren’t certified to conduct basic operations at sea related to war-fighting, according to U.S. Navy records.

As of late June, eight of the 11 cruisers and destroyers in the Seventh Fleet, and their crew members, weren’t certified by the U.S. Navy to conduct “mobility seamanship,” or basic steering of the ship, according to U.S. Navy records provided to two House Armed Services subcommittees.

The Navy also said that seven of those ships had expired training certification in the areas of cruise missile defense and surface warfare, which test a crew’s ability to defend a ship or to conduct attacks.

Don’t worry about basic seamanship; who needs that in the Navy? As for basic ship steering, why would anyone need to know how to steer a ship at sea? Don’t they just float on their own? There’s like currents out there…

Good God…

This latest revelation comes after the Navy’s year of collisions at sea. The USS Fitzgerald collided with a Philippine-flagged vessel on June 17, killing seven crew members. The USS John McCain collided with a Liberian-flagged vessel Aug. 21, killing 10 sailors. Neither the Fitzgerald nor the McCain were certified for the majority of the mission operation requirements that the Navy periodically evaluates.

At first it was thought that somehow the diabolical Kim Jong-un had somehow found a way to hack into ship navigational systems, thereby causing the collisions.

It’s not Kim, it’s not China, it’s not Putin and it’s not Dr. No. It’s a lack of training, a lack of focus on what is important and it’s a complete abandonment of the Navy’s and the military’s mission which is to train for war and to win those wars when called upon to do so.

The Navy repeatedly has said that increased demand on the Seventh Fleet has resulted in cutbacks on training and certifications. That pressure has only increased in recent months with each North Korean missile or weapons test, as the fleet conducts more exercises and patrols with the same number of ships.

Wouldn’t continual time at sea actually hone skills rather than erode or eradicate them? Wouldn’t continual time at sea be a place to conduct training and ensure that certifications are carried out? After all, you can’t practice seamanship sitting in a building in San Diego.

One wonders what the Navy is doing with their training time instead of learning skills sailors have had since the Carthaginians defeated the fleet of Pyrrhus of Epirus in 276 B.C.

I don’t buy the excuse that deployments are making shoddy sailors. The Navy is making shoddy sailors by focusing on issues that have nothing to do with war fighting.

The Navy’s problems also don’t lie with just the 7th Fleet.

In January 2016, two US Navy high speed Riverine boats from the 5th Fleet were apparently underway from Bahrain to Kuwait when they strayed into Iranian waters, while attempting to contact a vessel to refuel. The Pentagon first said that they had engine trouble. Yet, if that was the case, why didn’t the other boat tow the boat with mechanical problems to international waters and safety?

Then, the Pentagon said that they had navigational issues. How was this possible in 2016, with each boat having an array of GPS and radar equipment? Even if one boat’s systems completely shut down, couldn’t they rely on the other boat’s GPS or radar?

Lieutenant David Nartker, commanding officer of the two US Navy Riverine boats, surrendered his men and his craft with superior firepower to a half dozen Iranian thugs in bass boats that looked like they belonged on Bill Dance’s fishing show. Nartker surrendered without firing so much as a flare. After boarding the Navy boats, Nartker and his men were ordered down on their knees while the Iranians trained machine guns and cameras on them.

Nartker doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on his disgraceful conduct by apologizing to the Iranians for a worldwide TV audience.

“It was a mistake. That was our fault and we apologize for our mistake,” Nartker said in the video. “It was a misunderstanding. We did not mean to go into Iranian territorial water. The Iranian behavior was fantastic while we were here. We thank you very much for your hospitality and your assistance.”

To add insult to injury, one of his men felt it was an opportune time to start bawling his head off like he was a guest on Oprah, letting the Iranians and everyone on the planet know that US Navy sailors of 2016 were not made from the same mold as the guys who won the Battle of Midway.

Last September, a baby was born on the aircraft carrier, the USS Dwight David Eisenhower, which is part of the 5th Fleet.

According to the Navy, “As the baby was born at sea aboard an operational unit, the main focus for the U.S. Navy, the ship and its crew is the safety and well being of the baby and the mother,” Cmdr. Bill Urban, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command spokesman, told The Virginian-Pilot. Urban continued – “While it would have been preferred to send her to her home port earlier, per policy, we are now focused on caring for the health and welfare of our Sailor and the newest member of our Navy family,” Urban said.

Absolutely, Commander Urban, the main priority of a Navy ship of war is post natal care. I mean why not, the Navy can’t do anything else right, why not just become a floating maternity ward.

Apparently an incubator, diapers and formula were flown out to the carrier following the baby’s birth.

If collisions at sea, babies on board warships, crying sailors and gutless leaders aren’t enough, there’s the Fat Leonard scandal.

The Washington Post called the Fat Leonard scandal, “perhaps the worst national-security breach of its kind to hit the Navy since the end of the Cold War.” At the heart of the scandal was Glenn Defense Marine Asia, a firm run by Leonard Glenn Francis, a Malaysian national known as “Fat Leonard” for his 350-pound weight.[2] Francis provided thousands of dollars in cash, travel expenses, luxury items, and prostitutes to a large number of U.S. uniformed officers, who in turn gave him classified material about the movements of U.S. ships and submarines, confidential contracting information, and information about active law enforcement investigations into Glenn Defense Marine Asia. Francis then “exploited the intelligence for illicit profit, brazenly ordering his moles to redirect aircraft carriers to ports he controlled in Southeast Asia so he could more easily bilk the Navy for fuel, tugboats, barges, food, water and sewage removal.

The US Navy is being eaten alive by corruption, by gutless admirals, by politically correct officers, by social engineering and cultural Marxism which have just about deep-sixed it forever.

In actuality, the Navy has been sliding down the drain for 26 years, ever since the feminist slaughter house called the Tailhook Affair, when hundreds of US Navy and Marine Corps officers, including Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Frank Kelso, were keel-hauled by the Navy for drinking, carousing, indecent conduct and drummed up charges of sexual assault. Imagine that, aviators who drink and get laid; can’t have that in the military.

Tailhook became a catalyst for the left and for feminists to destroy the military through social engineering. As James Webb remarked, “When the Tailhook investigation began, and certain political elements used the incident to bring discredit on naval aviation as a whole, and then on the Navy writ large, one is entitled to ask… Who fought this? Who condemned it? When a whole generation of officers is asked to accept … the destruction of the careers of some of the finest aviators in the Navy based on hearsay, unsubstantiated allegations, in some cases after a full repudiation of anonymous charges that resemble the worst elements of McCarthyism … what admiral has had the courage to risk his own career by putting his stars on the table, and defending the integrity of the process and of its people?”

Since September of 1991, the Navy has slowly castrated itself with a pen knife, transforming the once proud service into the ill-functioning eunuch of today.

We now have a Navy that can’t fight, can’t navigate, and is largely without basic seamanship skills.

One must ask what the PC revolution has done to help the US Navy fight and win wars?

It’s done nothing except to put people’s lives in danger and to get people killed.

Expect more incompetence, more babies born on ships, more PC lunacy and more general misconduct. The US Navy is a total cluster.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: collisions; navy; pc; raymabus
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To: A strike; thoolou

See, that proves my point.

The XO writing the Fitness Report couldn’t spell it so how can he teach it?

Then again, what do I know, I was a Radioman...<: <:

(Ten years ago I couldn’t spell architect, now I are one)


41 posted on 09/08/2017 12:26:09 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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To: laplata

My Mattis needle (from what I’ve seen in the media) is still at 0 on the 1-10 scale, and threatening to move into negative territory.


42 posted on 09/08/2017 2:06:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: pboyington

“...the beauty parlor is filled with sailors, the circus is in town...”

(Bob Dylan, “Desolation Row” 1965)


43 posted on 09/08/2017 2:37:50 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: pboyington

More Navy disinformation bunkum.


44 posted on 09/08/2017 3:07:03 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mariner

Sorry, as much as you might not like it, the author makes some valid points. Planting your head in the sand will not make a cesspool into a crystal clear mountain spring. We need to keep our eyes open, see problems where they exist and correct those problems,


45 posted on 09/08/2017 3:54:05 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: raiderboy

It’s not just the Navy.


46 posted on 09/08/2017 4:04:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: PIF

On second thought, I posted mine as a 3. He is very disappointing.


47 posted on 09/08/2017 7:46:07 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: House Atreides

You have US Navy experience?
Did you sail for Uncle Sam?


48 posted on 09/08/2017 7:48:18 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: A strike

What do you know about the US Navy or it’s capabilities?
Do you have any direct experience?


49 posted on 09/08/2017 7:49:13 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: doorgunner69

You speak authoritatively, like you actually have some direct experience at sea.

Which I doubt.


50 posted on 09/08/2017 7:50:15 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: pboyington

You know nothing of the US Navy or it’s capabilities.


51 posted on 09/08/2017 7:52:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“You have US Navy experience?
Did you sail for Uncle Sam?”
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No, I was a ground pounder and have never been in the Navy. I also have never been in Venezuela but know that it is crumbling under massive socialist mismanagement.

Enjoy your role as a “Baghdad Bob” for the US Navy,


52 posted on 09/08/2017 10:55:47 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: House Atreides

Your expressed derision exposes your abject ignorance.


53 posted on 09/08/2017 10:58:27 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I know the Navy is weak, like the rest of our armed forces. So, stop spinning. Worst of all, our enemies know we’re weak. We have gutless leaders who have let the military go down the drain for the last 25 years.


54 posted on 09/08/2017 11:33:51 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: pboyington

The article is not an indictment of the military’s enlisted personnel, who only do their best and expect the best from their leaders, who, at the senior level aren’t worth a farthing.


55 posted on 09/08/2017 11:39:04 AM PDT by pboyington
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To: pboyington; Jeff Head

The USN can sink both the PLAN and the Russian Navy, at the same time.

This can be proven by the fact you’re still able to continue with your inane conjecture.

Try a little research, even learn from many of your fellow freepers who actually know something about Naval power and capabilities.

Ping the resident expert, Jeff Head.


56 posted on 09/08/2017 11:39:51 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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