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DREAMers Lobby Against a Trump Border Wall Deal—Even One That Would Save Them
The Daily Beast ^ | September 5, 2017 | Sam Stein

Posted on 09/06/2017 6:44:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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So illegal alien non-citizens now have an outsized input in government policies in the United States?
1 posted on 09/06/2017 6:44:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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PING


2 posted on 09/06/2017 6:46:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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The Republicans, I suspect, may be trying to be smart and show that Democrats won’t save DACA if it means losing on the wall.

I wish they would just wage outright political hostilities, seek to crush the DNC, and stop trying to get along.


3 posted on 09/06/2017 6:49:03 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are nothing but bargaining chips. They are not citizens and, as such, they are subject to deportation and I have no problem seeing them deported with their family. NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER AT ALL.


4 posted on 09/06/2017 6:50:51 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remove ALL illegal aliens, regardless of how old they were when they broke in.

There are NO “law-abiding” illegal aliens.


5 posted on 09/06/2017 6:53:52 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: RC one

Bill Clinton didn’t give amnesty to children of illegal aliens, why should trump have to?

goes to show how times have changed for the worse. The republican congress is to the left of Bill Clinton.
Pathetic.


6 posted on 09/06/2017 6:55:45 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Liberals arguing for their agenda--Russia! Russia! Racism! Racism! sexism! homophobia!)
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...You cannot reward an immoral act with a concession...

That is correct. Obama’s flaunting immigration laws in violation of his oath and the separation of powers was both illegal and immoral.

Obama admitted his DACA was illegal. He acted in an extra-Constitutional manner. He knew Congress was in charge of immigration law and not him..

“I asked Congress to send me such a bill,” Obama says. “The bill never came. And ... my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country.”

However, Article I gives Congress the exclusive authority to regulate immigration in a uniform manner.
Article 2 sets out Presidential power, and it doesn’t include immigration matters. The President must enforce immigration law and can’t grant waivers or exceptions to it.
But, Obama believes he’s above the law and the Constitution.


7 posted on 09/06/2017 7:02:38 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He was nine months away from getting that degree but wouldn’t take a deal that could ensure its usage if that deal involved funding a border wall.

Not pragmatic and in fact “Illogical Captain”...


8 posted on 09/06/2017 7:07:00 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Aguiluz, a nurse, was outside the White House on Tuesday to protest Trump’s decision. “By me trying to say, ‘Oh, let’s make a deal with the wall,’ it is like I’m stepping up on my community, my parents, uncles, and grandparents, that I’m putting them down so that I can get ahead,” he said. “That’s unfair and it’s not American.”

WTF?
Some Mexican or whatever who is not an American citizen presumes to tell us what we can or can't vote for in our own Congress?

9 posted on 09/06/2017 7:07:02 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, bye.


10 posted on 09/06/2017 7:08:31 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They know that the weak-kneed cowards in the GOP will cave to Trump, “Chuck” and “Nancy” and they’ll be full fledged citizens by spring.


11 posted on 09/06/2017 7:15:01 PM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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Dreamers?

Boy the media sure is unbiased. I guess they could have called them Angels or Perfect People or maybe just illegal aliens.

Well they couldn’t call them illegals. That is too accurate and besides it is racist.


12 posted on 09/06/2017 7:20:37 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Unreal.


13 posted on 09/06/2017 7:38:20 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Deport all of them now. I have not heard even one of them show loyalty to the United States. They are ungrateful invaders that are stealing from the American people and do not deserve to be here.


14 posted on 09/06/2017 8:36:29 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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“DACA changed my life completely,” he said, explaining how the program allowed him to pursue a nursing degree...at his age he understands that he's in the US illegally and apparently doesn't seem to care - what other laws might he find inconvenient to have to obey once he becomes a nurse?.....
15 posted on 09/06/2017 8:47:27 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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HMMMM DACA changed my Life completely also, They are overrunning our Country and were Sick of it.


16 posted on 09/06/2017 9:21:50 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now the truth is coming out for those that care to listen. They do not believe we have the RIGHT to keep out illegals. That means they do not see us as a legitimate country, of course some of us knew that already. Their purpose is reconquista, plain and simple.


17 posted on 09/06/2017 9:46:51 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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“presidential vanity project”? It’s
what the majority of the voters want.
BUILD THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL.
Deport ALL illegal aliens.
As a child, we relocated many times.
Always was able to adapt. It’s pure
horsehocky to even think these “Dreamers”
lives will be catastrophic if they’re
sent back to their respective countries of
origin.


18 posted on 09/06/2017 10:14:00 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Tammy8

“presidential vanity project”? It’s
what the majority of the voters want.
BUILD THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL.
Deport ALL illegal aliens.
As a child, we relocated many times.
Always was able to adapt. It’s pure
horsehocky to even think these “Dreamers”
lives will be catastrophic if they’re
sent back to their respective countries of
origin.


19 posted on 09/06/2017 10:14:03 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would imagine that non Hispanic Dreamers might have a different take on it.


20 posted on 09/06/2017 10:16:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Congressional Bi-partisanship: Agreeing to the make up of the Trump firing squad.)
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