[DoodleDawg]

So at what point do conservatives start demanding that liberals stop calling "Nazisim" a "far right" ideology?

Possibly when the Nazis stop considering themselves right wing?

[ek_hornbeck]

Many conservative talking heads try to redefine Left and Right in terms of collectivism vs. individualism or authoritarianism vs. liberty. This always struck me as dishonest, because you shouldn't be able to change the definitions of words to suit your agenda.

"Left" and "Right" have always been defined on the spectrum of those who want to overthrow traditional institutions vs. those who want to preserve them. A monarchist is right-wing, even when the monarchy is very anti-liberty and anti-individual. An anarchist is left wing even though they advocate a dream world with no governments.

By this definition, Fascists and Nazis were Right Wing in that they opposed the labor unions, returned property to the aristocracy that was seized from them under the Weimar Republican, officially opposed atheism (regardless of their leaders' personal beliefs), and won the support of industrialists and the military elite of their countries. Meanwhile, Communists imprisoned and executed industrialists, aristocrats, etc. while putting labor union bosses in positions of power.

By the traditional definition of Left and Right, it makes perfect sense for Fascists and Nazis to have an affinity with the Right rather than with the Marxist or Anarchist Left.