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"Nazism" as per wikipedia
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Posted on 08/15/2017 7:52:22 AM PDT by bryan999

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Any party calling themselves ‘Socialists’ are far left of me and most people I care about.


21 posted on 08/15/2017 8:17:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


Yep, though that cycle was finally broken with Trump.


22 posted on 08/15/2017 9:09:18 AM PDT by robroys woman
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The so-called "right" demands more individual freedom and more liberty and more private property, not less. Conservatives are NOT collectivists in any way shape, or form, always and forever.

The terms "Left" and "Right" have their origins in the French Revolution. The Monarchists sat on the right of the assembly, the Republicans (anti-monarchists) on the Left.

The definitions of "Left" and "Right" are not based on collectivism vs. individualism or liberty vs. tyranny. The Right supports traditional social institutions, the Left seeks to overthrow them. If you adopt this (original and correct) definition of Left and Right, then you realize that you can have totalitarian/authoritarian movements on both the Left and the Right just as you can have both Left and Rightwing anarchist/libertarian movements.

23 posted on 08/15/2017 9:28:04 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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So at what point do conservatives start demanding that liberals stop calling "Nazisim" a "far right" ideology?

Possibly when the Nazis stop considering themselves right wing?

24 posted on 08/15/2017 9:34:32 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

Wiki is fast and easy. Just like google.

Please dont use the encyclopedia that literally anyone can edit as fact. Remember how neat it felt to find the teachers answer sheet? Remember how F-ed up it was to find out it was a plant and you had been suckered?

..And Google? Thats just giving everything out right to the enemy. You could use it against them but any legitimate use is only telegraphing your intentions to the enemy.

Tin foil strapped down securely!

25 posted on 08/15/2017 9:41:54 AM PDT by Delta 21
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Many conservative talking heads try to redefine Left and Right in terms of collectivism vs. individualism or authoritarianism vs. liberty. This always struck me as dishonest, because you shouldn't be able to change the definitions of words to suit your agenda.

"Left" and "Right" have always been defined on the spectrum of those who want to overthrow traditional institutions vs. those who want to preserve them. A monarchist is right-wing, even when the monarchy is very anti-liberty and anti-individual. An anarchist is left wing even though they advocate a dream world with no governments.

By this definition, Fascists and Nazis were Right Wing in that they opposed the labor unions, returned property to the aristocracy that was seized from them under the Weimar Republican, officially opposed atheism (regardless of their leaders' personal beliefs), and won the support of industrialists and the military elite of their countries. Meanwhile, Communists imprisoned and executed industrialists, aristocrats, etc. while putting labor union bosses in positions of power.

By the traditional definition of Left and Right, it makes perfect sense for Fascists and Nazis to have an affinity with the Right rather than with the Marxist or Anarchist Left.

26 posted on 08/15/2017 9:49:13 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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