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To: pboyington

Breathless hyperbole. I agree that SEAL standards ought not be lowered for women, but it’s not the end of the military.


6 posted on 07/23/2017 4:53:00 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: be-baw

In small elite units, like the SEALs or Combat Controllers, there is not a woman in the world that can pass the course. They simply don’t have the muscle mass and strength.

Thing is, you open these units to women and THEY will pass, and I can’t recall a single MOS where the introduction of females was not accompanied by a reduction of standards.

Read Brian Michell’s “Weak Link” for countless examples of lowering standards.

If you can’t find the book, just read up on the females that “graduated” Ranger School. Lots of compromise to accommodate them (strength and sharing of hard tasks), and dd that their training records went missing when requested by Congress.

Heck, back when females were first introduced into USAF pilot training (and were restricted to flying heavies), the usual class had 3 to 5 females in a class. Usually one, MAYBE two would graduate and that was because the “strongest” females traineee would be identified and they would staple a Samsonite handle on her back and she would received extra rides and a soft look during check-rides. When I asked a check pilot how can he give her a pass when a guy would have failed in the chocks, he said he was told to ensure she passed and besides, she was going to a crew aircraft.

Training standards were compromised, and when they were introduced into fighter, recall Hultgren of the Navy, also, when I was flying in an F-15E squadron and we all collected in the base theater where we were told Jennie Flynn was to be the first female to fly fighters in the USAF and she WILL pass MR check, she WILL upgrade to two-ship and 4-ship flight lead on time, and so forth. Lowering of standards, of course because we were told to pass her regardless of her meager skills. We had all heard from the RTU instructors that said she cried during de-briefs, CRIED. Post flight debriefs would lat longer than the flight and they would rip you a new one. . .and she cried. Imagine if a guy cried during a de-brief, that guy would have been washed out immediately.

For the Army, the 12 mile ruck march at the end of Air Assault training, women only had to carry a ruck that was at least 10-lbs less than what the men carried.

So forth and so on.

“End of military?” Not really, but compromised standards, definitely.


25 posted on 07/23/2017 6:00:09 PM PDT by Hulka
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