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Greenfield: Why ISIS Isn't Going Anywhere
FrontPage ^ | 7/4/17 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/08/2017 12:34:48 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell

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1 posted on 07/08/2017 12:34:48 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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2 posted on 07/08/2017 12:36:13 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Well, I guess I am not surprised. My how the nation has become so corrupt.


3 posted on 07/08/2017 12:36:31 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Louis Foxwell
We beat ISIS twice before.

Yea well, there's a new sheriff in town now.

4 posted on 07/08/2017 12:38:12 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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I’ll take “Utter and Complete Annihilation” for $1000, Alex.


5 posted on 07/08/2017 12:41:20 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

ISIS peaked and has declined. They will never get back to where they were.


6 posted on 07/08/2017 12:41:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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People were saying the same thing about Germany in 1919.


7 posted on 07/08/2017 12:45:58 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (anything worth doing is worth overdoing,moderation is for cowards)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Islamic terrorists are not a “tiny minority of extremists” who “pervert Islam”. They are Islam.

Until this is generally understood by our leaders, assuming our leaders are not actually allied with Islam- which is not a given, we will continue to lose no matter what happens on the battlefield in the ME.

8 posted on 07/08/2017 12:47:01 PM PDT by arthurus
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Islamic terrorists are not a “tiny minority of extremists” who “pervert Islam”. They are Islam.

THEY ARE ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally, someone else sees this.

Thank you, Daniel Greenfield.

9 posted on 07/08/2017 12:50:23 PM PDT by onedoug ( KEK)
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To: nickcarraway

They will be replaced by another name. It is guaranteed.


10 posted on 07/08/2017 12:52:50 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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They’re [islamic terrorist so-called 'lone wolves'] parts of a distributed network that is deliberately decentralized to better fulfill its central purpose.

And Dems don't know this, or deliberately ignore it...

11 posted on 07/08/2017 12:59:37 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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No, they weren’t. 1919 Caused World War II, it wasn’t because we didn’t “stop Germany.”


12 posted on 07/08/2017 1:01:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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a distributed network that is deliberately decentralized to better fulfill its central purpose

harder to hit a splintering moving target

13 posted on 07/08/2017 1:02:02 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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I believe that Bannon fully understands the conflict, and there is a reasonably good chance that President Trump does as well.

The question, really, is what to do about it - militarily, economically, culturally and spiritually.

In the past 1400 years, there have been many versions of ISIS. They have been defeated by Christian armies in decisive battles in 732, 1099, 1565, 1571, and 1683 (to list some of the biggies).

The situation is somewhat different now, with much of the formerly Christian world surrendering and/or inviting their own demise (as you noted).

But though the hour appears late, there is still time.


14 posted on 07/08/2017 1:04:46 PM PDT by karnage
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[[ISIS and Islamic terrorists aren’t going anywhere. Defeating them through patronizing lectures about the peacefulness of Islam, as Obama’s CVE policy proposed to do, was a futile farce. Bombing them temporarily suppresses them as an organized military force, but not their religious and cultural origins.

As long as we go on seeing Islamic terrorism as an aberration that has no connection to the history and religion of Islam, our efforts to defeat it will be pinpricks that treat the symptoms, but not the problem. ]]

Bingo.
It’s now going to big time spread.

Can’t speak out against so you can’t change the thinking when ends in nothing but death and destruction. Misplaced do goodism that say you can’t hurt their feelings by out the obvious.

Iran will be taken out soon . Nothing will hold them in check then. That caliphate will form when the muslim brotherhood picks the calif . The fighting between themselves will end and watch out world because they are coming. Their dogma says that it’s every muslims duty to kill the infidel when the calif says to.

Islam is demonic


15 posted on 07/08/2017 1:06:57 PM PDT by Lera
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ISIS peaked and has declined. They will never get back to where they were.

The demographics in London, Paris, Stockholm and Dearborne argue otherwise.

16 posted on 07/08/2017 1:16:08 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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[[I believe that Bannon fully understands the conflict, and there is a reasonably good chance that President Trump does as well.

The question, really, is what to do about it - militarily, economically, culturally and spiritually.

In the past 1400 years, there have been many versions of ISIS. They have been defeated by Christian armies in decisive battles in 732, 1099, 1565, 1571, and 1683 (to list some of the biggies).

The situation is somewhat different now, with much of the formerly Christian world surrendering and/or inviting their own demise (as you noted).

But though the hour appears late, there is still time.]]

They don’t understand it.
Neither does Israel.
That’s why Trump and Israel are making a deal to protect Saudi Arabia from their common enemy Iran.
When they remove Iran from Syria and their nuke site it paves the way for a Sunni caliphate.
Damascus will get get destroyed and so will the area call Elam of Iran (it’s the area where their nukes stuff is )
The trigger will probably be something Iran does to Saudi Arabia .

They don’t get it. None of them of do.
The coming caliphate will be much than anything anyone has her ever seen before .


17 posted on 07/08/2017 1:22:43 PM PDT by Lera
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To: karnage

Our public school system of the last 60 years or so eliminates any margin we might have short of a charismatic dictatorship.


18 posted on 07/08/2017 1:32:50 PM PDT by arthurus
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A future incarnation of radicalized Islam is inevitable.

The only way to stop them is to eradicate the source.

The source is Islam.


19 posted on 07/08/2017 1:35:25 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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We can’t defeat it without breaking the historical aspirations of the Sunni population.

We can't permanently defeat it but we can buy a generation or a century of torpor in the Islamic world by utterly defeating its main actors on the battlefield as we colonize the principal natural resources and strip the Moslem world of wealth by refusing to trade with them and by colonizing much of it as the European powers did in the 19th Century. The key is to strip the paynim of the resources necessary to wage Jihad at the same time beating them in War so badly that they understand that Allah does not want Islam to triumph in this generation/century. The only real alternative to all that short of surrender is forced convrsion of the Arab and Arabized Mohammedans to liturgical Christianity, Catholic or Orthodox.

That makes the Protestants and most Catholics scream but we are not thereby trying to save the Moho souls. We are trying to eliminate the existential threat to Christianity and Civilization.

Spain and Portugal did it successfully after 1492. The Iberian moors did not truly convert in their heats, certainly, but by being forced to attend Mass and participate in all other Christian processions and Holy Days they were kept in check and their children were much less Moslem. Their Grandchildren were for the most part Christians and no longer inclined to Jihad..

20 posted on 07/08/2017 1:45:15 PM PDT by arthurus
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