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To: Oldpuppymax
Will Ryan suffer the Cantor fate

No, I don't think so.

I grew up around, and live around, liberal Republicans.

In the interests of full disclosure - I do not believe the Republican party will survive Donald Trump's presidency. If they do not act to remove him, they will be replaced with something much better by 2025.

But anyway - Ryan's people are NICE - Midwestern nice - and they are socialists, but NICE socialists who just want to be neighborly and help out, and wouldn't hurt a fly.

Paul Ryan is their perfect representative. They want nothing to do with the Trump deplorables who carried Wisconsin, and neither does Ryan.

Right this second, Ryan is doing the calculation on IF he can "with a heavy heart" decide that Trump has to go, and if he does go that way, who will go with him.

The GOP is really not important any more. What's important, what will make the future political system, are the 8.4 million or so voters who switched from voting for Obama twice to voting for Donald Trump.

9 posted on 06/30/2017 8:39:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Jim Noble

“Right this second, Ryan is doing the calculation on IF he can “with a heavy heart” decide that Trump has to go, and if he does go that way, who will go with him.”

I agree, DEFINITELY. And he’s been doing that calculation since before the Convention. And in the front of his devious mind, he wants to be the one that ultimately replaces Trump

Back before the Convention it was “If I do get Trump ousted, how do I (or Kasich) pick up the 30% or so of the voters who supported him? And if I lose those voters, there is no way that I can win.” So his hand is forced and he can’t make his move.

Now it’s: “If I do get Trump impeached, with now 80% plus support among Republican voters, how many Republicans will lose their seats over it?” The answer, of course, is HUGE, and it has to be killing him that he cannot do a damn thing about it.

Trump remains in control of the 80%, by his actions, which have been excellent so far. Moving forward, he has to stay clear of Amnesty and make a real effort to build the wall. Doing that will keep him at 80% (easily)...and leave Ryan flailing away. But if Trump drops to some magic (low) level of Republican support, he’s out the door in 5 minutes.


20 posted on 07/01/2017 8:23:31 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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