[reasonisfaith]

With Alinsky, it’s the same thing. His ideology and his tactics were to do away with all morals. We don’t want this.

And so we don’t give Alinsky undo credit, let’s recognize Niccolo Machiavelli did the same thing.

[reasonisfaith]

More than four centuries before Alinsky.

[Bryanw92]

>>And so we don’t give Alinsky undo credit, let’s recognize Niccolo Machiavelli did the same thing.

Not at all. Machiavelli gave us philosophy for a despot to exert force down. Alinsky turned that into something actionable for people to exert force up.