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#Rogue, Useful Idiot, Top Secret Doc Leaker 'Reality Leigh Winner' Busted
Black & Blonde Media ^ | 6/5/17 | Black & Blonde Media

Posted on 06/05/2017 5:11:51 PM PDT by impetrio1

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To: COBOL2Java

I don’t know where everybody is getting this “expensive for security clearance”. You fill out the SF 86 and submit it to the OPM. About two months later, and possibly after an interview its approved for the appropriate level of classification or it’s not. There is no cost..


41 posted on 06/05/2017 7:23:31 PM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener

Her support for Ana Navarro tells me she’s not a total Leftist.

I’m starting to get that her identity may have been hijacked.


42 posted on 06/05/2017 7:27:44 PM PDT by txhurl (Time to blow the Queen and King off the board, DJT, and by your birthday, or on it!)
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To: Col Frank Slade

I held a TS/SCI at 23. My sister worked in an AirForce comm center and was cleared to Presidential at 21.

As a counter example, I have been interviewed concerning others that were in their 30’s that I didn’t think should hold even confidential.

It is not the age, it is the maturity


43 posted on 06/05/2017 7:51:53 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: PAR35
I throw stories like this in the faces of FReepers who think government work should all be contracted out to the private sector.

It's not the private sector. It is the crony capitalist sector. There is no free market competition here there is monopsony, monopoly, information asymmetries, and externalities (who is friends with whom, kickbacks, legal graft, etc.) and as you point out, all without a fiduciary duty to the taxpayer.

This is one of the worst fairy tales to hit modern government.

44 posted on 06/05/2017 7:53:30 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: suthener
I don’t know where everybody is getting this “expensive for security clearance”. You fill out the SF 86 and submit it to the OPM. About two months later, and possibly after an interview its approved for the appropriate level of classification or it’s not. There is no cost..

Oh fiddlestix. It costs a bomb for the investigation, and it does not happen in two months. Waiting lists are up to two years, and more.

45 posted on 06/05/2017 7:55:12 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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46 posted on 06/05/2017 7:56:30 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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FACEBOOK LINK:

https://www.facebook.com/RealityWinner

It’s still up. Leave a message!!


47 posted on 06/05/2017 8:05:33 PM PDT by GOP Congress
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To: PAR35
While the government issues the clearance, they frequently hire contractors to do the checks. And the contractors have been known to fake the work

I didn't know that! I'm not surprised that they do, and also not surprised there is fraud!

I have no expertise on deciding whether government employees or private firms should do any particular U.S. jobs. I've worked with and for both types.

48 posted on 06/05/2017 8:33:13 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my airline pilot son!)
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To: Chgogal

She started out around six years ago in the Air Force, and had a profession as a intel translator (at least two languages from what news sources say). Appears like she did attend some college along the way. The type work while in the military required the TS clearance. I would imagine that it got renewed around the last year in, and she used that to get a job with this company. She was hired in Feb....so only lasted three months before being arrested.


49 posted on 06/05/2017 9:12:38 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Liz

The FACE of Awfully Stupid and Sorry.


50 posted on 06/05/2017 9:24:03 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: impetrio1

Winner served as a linguist in the Air Force and is fluent in Pashto, Farsi, and Dari. She maintained a top secret clearance after her time in the service.

Winner enlisted in the service in 2013, serving as an airman first class with the 94th Intelligence Squadron at Fort Meade, Maryland, until earlier this year when she separated.


51 posted on 06/05/2017 10:02:50 PM PDT by gandalftb
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Winner enlisted in the service in 2013, serving as an airman first class with the 94th Intelligence Squadron at Fort Meade, Maryland, until earlier this year when she separated.

IMO, this background makes her crime seem much worse. She may have been a paper-pushing contractor at the time of the offense, but she wasn't just an office drone from a civilian agency - she's a veteran with recent experience with and access to sensitive equipment and information. She knew exactly what she was doing, and knew the possible ramifications if caught.

52 posted on 06/05/2017 10:15:33 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: suthener

Was it your company or were you an employee?


53 posted on 06/06/2017 2:57:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: martinidon
She probably got her Security Clarence while in the Air Force.

Definitely - many who get out with a clearance leverage that for a contractor job because it costs money to foot the bill for the initial clearance so they move to the top of the contractors' lists. Too many substandard folks end up as contractors - wonder what the majority of her co-workers thought about her - a signed pic of Anderson Cooper ain't the typical parting gift....

54 posted on 06/06/2017 4:25:41 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: COBOL2Java; AndyJackson

I was an employee; the Facility Security Officer. I obtained clearances, prepared updates, and was responsible for our classified documents and material. I have years of experience with this, I’m not talking out of my butt. We did not pay for clearances. I dealt directly with the Defense Security Service rep. I was audited on a regular basis. We obtained clearances in months, not years. One of our employees was issued a provisional confidential clearance in 24 HOURS due to a critical contract. What exact government agency to you think you pay for a clearance?


55 posted on 06/06/2017 9:08:19 AM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener
Depends on the type of clearance. CONFIDENTIAL is fairly straightforward and does not require that much work for the government. SECRET requires much more investigation, as does TOP SECRET, which includes a heavy-duty background investigation with agents going out and interviewing people who know you. It costs money to hire investigators to contact those people and arrange the interviews.

A TS clearance with FULL SCOPE POLY is even more expensive.

All this work is done by the government and charged back to the consulting company. It is paid by the CEO of the company, who usually holds the clearances him or herself.

56 posted on 06/06/2017 9:38:57 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: COBOL2Java

My last word on the subject; we did not pay for security clearances. All of the people I dealt with were government employees, not contractors including the people who came to interview out employees.


57 posted on 06/06/2017 10:38:05 AM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener
My last word on the subject; we did not pay for security clearances. All of the people I dealt with were government employees, not contractors including the people who came to interview out employees.

Well there's your answer. The cost for processing the clearances for your government employees was paid for, naturally, by the government.

58 posted on 06/06/2017 11:10:39 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Our employees were not government, I’m talking about the people I dealt with in the process of getting security clearances. The investigators, our local DSS rep, etc.


59 posted on 06/06/2017 12:13:42 PM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener
The investigators, our local DSS rep, etc.

All of whom are paid employees. Nobody works for free. While there is no direct cost to your company except for your pay in the course of your duties, your DSS rep etc weren't working on other clearances while they did yours. It costs alot of money to do the process correctly.

60 posted on 06/06/2017 12:42:26 PM PDT by xone
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