Posted on 05/22/2017 9:52:52 PM PDT by Nelson Sloan
Glenn Miller "mystery" solved. Alleged plane crash into English Channel was a lie. Truth finally told by retired Army officer on General Bradley's staff says his investigation proves Miller died in Paris in December 1944 - Hunton Downs tells MilitaryCorruption.com that a Nazi spy in General Eisenhower's HQ betrayed Miller's mission to meet with German representative of anti-Hitler forces to bring early end to war in Europe. The 90-year-old Downs says famed band leader's nude body was dumped outside a Paris brothel.
> Hmmm … maybe Miller was a double-naught spy? <
I doubt it. Miller couldn’t cipher very well.
Some of the funniest routines ever put on TV.
Well, ok then, that certainly seems plausible.
I call bullshit on this.
The first clue for me was the url for the website this story came from... MILITARYCORRUPTION.COM. No hidden agenda there... Some of the other headlines on the site seem equally far fetched.
The man’s name is DOWNS. The plural is not DOWN’S.
Like those signs people named Jones put on their houses: THE JONE’S.
The web page is old. It speaks of the upcoming “65th anniversary” of Miller’s death.
Well, everyone who’s bad-mouthing the website should be aware that they had no problem exposing Obama’s butt-boy, Marine Commandant James Amos. In fact, Amos ordered all Marine installations to block the website.
http://www.militarycorruption.com/jamesamos.htm
Don’t forget that Roosevelt was famous for his machinations.
Who else would you send if you were wanting the Germans to change their tune? [rimshot]
I’ve read this before. Heck, Leonard Nimoy might have even covered this on his television show.... (the name escapes me at present).
Personally, these are the convoluted theoretical exercises which usually leads me to trust Ockham’s razor, which isn’t always ideal, however an aerial strike while transiting a bombing range is entirely possible.
Wasn’t an Army General killed in France while observing a carpet bombing demonstration? It also reminds me of the sage advise of the line instructor during grenade day training, “when you the pin Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend”... it’s a short hop to Paris, go around the bombing range... freak accidents occurred almost daily in theater.
I am too young to know first hand but had heard that WWII bombers dropped any unused bombs before landing back home, usually looking for an open field to avoid friendly casualties. This method periodically killed a number of civilians. Maybe this got Miller.
I doubt it. Miller couldn’t cipher very well.
Yeah, he didn’t know his tootems and guzzintas.
Really old story.
The incident report was declassified when it became 50 years old in 1994.
It took researchers a year to stumble across it and bring it to the attention of the public.
I read this account a few months after it became public in 1995 or maybe 1996.
I saw a snippet on the History Channel, in which a crewman on a Lancaster convincing asserted that he saw a bomb hit a “grasshopper” - small aircraft - when they were dumping their ordnance in a bomb disposal area in the English Channel. Their mission had been scrubbed and they never landed with bombs, they would drop them in designated areas in the English Channel, which were clearly marked on wartime navigation charts.
Miller’s pilot was relatively inexperienced, and the most direct course between the departure airfield and Paris was through the disposal area. The pilot probably calculated that the danger of being hit in the ordnance disposal zone was too remote to bother changing course. He - and many others - may have done it often, and it was probably a common occurrence. He just got “lucky”.
The incident was hushed up to avoid arousing American public opinion against the British, and more justifiably against the U.S. Army, who were actually responsible. Eisenhower didn’t want to have to say “We screwed up and killed Glenn Miller on Christmas Day” by having him fly at night at the height of the Battle of the Bulge to entertain a lot of high ranking officers, while GIs were dying in the Ardenne.
Occam’s razor favors the simple and attested to story. The circumstances support his account, the time of departure and direct course to Paris would put Miller’s plane in the area at the time. The Nazi’s spread rumors about Miller being killed in a brothel and otherwise tried to make propaganda hay out Miller’s death. The truth was actually a lot worse.
Good thinking, applying a little math. Yeah, a 17 year-old officer on Bradley’s staff“If Downs is 90 now he would have been 17 in 1944 when he was an officer on Bradley’s staff. Hmmmmm.....”
Trouble is, the math can’t be airtight since the article gives the age only as "90-plus years” - which could be anything up to 99 years, I suppose - and that would allow for his having been 26 at the time, I guess.And how likely is it that there was a Nazi spy in Eisenhower’s staff? A spy high up enough to have known about the secret mission? Somehow any spies missed out on important details about, I don’t know, D-Day, but a spy knew all about Miller’s alleged mission?There’s a Hunton Leache Downs in Asheville who is 98.It must be him.19 posted on 5/23/2017, 2:04:55 AM by PLMerite
Yes, farfetched IMHO.Tho Hitler bought “Bodyguard” hook, line, and sinker. Interesting thing is that “Bodyguard” was never repudiated - the cover story of an enormous invasion planned at Calais remained operative until it was moot. And that was not until long after June 6, 1944. Hitler never said, “I was wrong about Calais” - and nobody ever pointed it out to him. Wish I could recall the name of the book that made that point . . .
Lt. Gen. Lesley J. McNair was kiiled during the carpet bombing of the German lines at the start of Operation COBRA, the breakout from the Normandy beachhead.
He was an observer and the bombs were off target.
I think they dropped the bombs in the channel to avoid that possibility.
On channel raids, yes. Mainland raids dropped in fields..
Could it be The Man Without a Name?
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