[glennaro]

Yeah ... and "best is the enemy of better".

I get the point ... but I don't agree with it. I don't celebrate mediocrity of outcome or, specific to the GOP-controlled Congress, medocrity of effort.

[loveliberty2]

First, perhaps a fresh review of Ronald Reagan's view on government and health care might inform today's citizens of the dangers we face today by trusting elected and appointed representatives with such a major part of our economy and the provision of health care. here.

The Freedom Caucus is playing the role of Paul Revere, and we are well-advised to heed their cautions.

Freedom, once lost, may never return.

[Ray76]

Spouting inane platitudes is not a substitute for having goals that differ from Democrats and a plan for how to achieve those goals.

[Pollster1]

I would like to see a bill on President Trump’s desk by the end of July that at least partially dismantles Obamacare. I would also like to see a carefully worded signing statement that Trump sees this as a first step to getting the government’s role in our medical care right, rather than a final cast-in-stone answer the way democrats saw their failed Obamacare law. Then I’d like to see republicans revisit health insurance after the 2018 election and dismantle more of Obamacare in early 2019.

[GOPJ]

The liberal media is the thug arm of the Democrat Party.

[freedomfiter2]

When has the GOPe ever supported anything good? Normally, they support something horrible and tell us it’s wonderful.

[TADSLOS]

[so_real]

We can't get better than a 90% "A", so we'll settle for an 80% "B". But getting a "B" hurts our feelings. So we'll make 80% the new "A". Of course when the next administration can't get an 80% "A", they will settle for a 70% "B" -- what we would call a "C" -- until that hurts their precious little snowflake feelings and "70%" becomes the new "A" ... rinse and repeat. But "Don't let great be the enemy of good" because he read it off a cereal box one day and it sounded nice.

[Mr. K]

I agree, but this is no where near ‘good’

[Jack Black]

Why am I supposed to care about this? Let's review:

Who gets insurance directly from Uncle Sam?

* Everyone over 65.
* Everyone who is "poor", ($32,000 for a family in Oregon)
* Many people who spent some time in the military.

Who gets gold-plated private insurance paid for by Government?

* all government employess, in one form or another
* some government retirees

Who gets subsidized insurance from Uncle Sam?

* People making up to 4X the poverty level who use the exchanges to get health insurance
That's $96,920: ($24,230 is the poverty level for a family of 4, so 4x that is $96,920.)
This turns out to be nearly everyone in the exchanges, according to stats nearly 85 percent of people enrolled in exchange plans in 2016 received subsidies that averaged $291 per month

Who pays for all of the above?

* Workers in private industry

What benefit to we get for paying for everyone else's free/subsidized/colllectively bargained for insurance?

-- NADA. Nothing. Zilch.

So, I'm being asked to argue for the continuation of this system. I'm far from being done with my working years, so I've got a lot more time to enjoy paying for everyone else's insurance, and then enjoy paying for my own.

The amount I pay for everyone else's is already more than people in countries with dreaded "socialized medicine" pay today.

This is possibly the dumbest hill to fight for and die on - for the Conservative movement. It's really all about preserving the cat-bird seat that insurance companies live in. Under Obamacare American citizens must either pay fines or buy insurance. Wow, wish my business could force people to buy our products, under penalty of law.

So, sure Obamacare sucks. But the GOP are just walking into the same trap that the Dems walked into with Obamacare. Passing that was the high water mark for Team Donkey - they had a 60 vote fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate and a big majority in the House.

Actually ending socialized medicine in America would mean ending Medicare, Medicaid, and lots of the rest of what's listed here.

There is no constituency for that, outside of the 10 editors and 1000 readers of Reason Magazine

. So, what we are asked to do is to work hard to retain the system where we pay for everyone else, and get nothing in return except the honor of paying again for our own.

I don't see wasting any of my time arguing for Trumpcare over Obamacare. Only a RINO could think that doing away with direct subsidies but replacing them with tax-credits and $20 billion dollar "funds" to give people free shit was some sort of a win.

Trump isn't nearly as smart as I thought he was. He's stepped right into the bear-trap and it's already closed on his leg.

[Teacher317]

Great is not having DC involved in health insurance, as we had for 200+ years, and allowing private citizens and private insurance companies to contract privately together. Good is retaining some possibilities for pre-existing conditions to be covered at appropriate rates. Bad is anything else.

Scrap ObamaCare in its entirety, pass some regulations allowing insurers the Freedom to cover pre-existing folks, and be done with it. Everything else in nonsense.