The War against the Confederacy

US Defense Watch ^ | April 30, 2017 | Ray Starmann

[JudgemAll]

He forgot that idiot Halley, ie bend over Rinos

The South is a nation with its own views. Granted it is a flag the US fought against but a nation with diverse opinions is not
racist, an ideology can be racist, ie democrats

The one making
war on the confederate flag in name
of racism
are
bigots

[JudgemAll]

Confederacy describes a party instructions on organizing a country but also points to a nation itself. It is the least doctrinal and ideological of planks, ie one in respect of the various views within the confederacy.

[reg45]

The United States was originally a confederacy - The Articles of Confederation preceded the Constitution of 1787.

[mulligan]

Evil is running America.

[clearcarbon]

"There is a dangerous trend infesting this country like malignant cancer cells. Anyone on the left who feels triggered or psychologically injured by a book, a speaker, a statue, a monument, a flag or a song, can claim some kind of special candyass status and demand that the speaker or in the case of the Confederacy, the flags, the statues and the monuments are destroyed. "

The ideals upon which this country was founded emerged from the virtue of learning from history. The new left seeks to erase history.

[2ndDivisionVet]

You don’t find the situation ironic, like Hitler almost certainly having Jewish ancestry?

[Colonel Kangaroo]

I like to think of the results being that the Confederacy lost but the South won by the defeat of the CSA. One of my strongest beliefs is that the Confederacy and the South were and are two different things and the understanding of the conflict is clearer when the battle is seen as Union versus Confederacy rather than North versus South.

[yoe]

Lincoln was not only racist he was a tyrant...and he used the feel good notion of 'freeing slaves' only to keep his war going until the Southern states no longer tried to secede. Lincoln also imprisoned his Northern detractors and his take on Negros in general was they were sub-normal i.e., not bright and should not be allowed to vote even if freed.

The Abe Lincoln in school history books is a myth.

[Bodega]

Considering the percentage of our total population the blacks occupy in this country, I remain amazed we as the people who vote have put up with this. Erasing history is to repeat it...is that what we want to do and just how do the blacks think they will do that? I wonder how many white v blacks think tearing down those statues will “fix” anything. It is like the Japanese thinking if they don’t talk about it, don’t write about it, the memory of American citizens and their children being made POWs during WWII will disappear? Hey, maybe it is all about reparations? Let’s not go there as every single person in the US is related to an immigrant..even NAs (Native Americans) whose ancestors came over the land bridge of the Bering Sea.

[RFEngineer]

“When they’re done with Lee, they’ll move to Reagan. Mark my words”

No, they will move to Washington, Jefferson, Madison, etc. Then to the Constitution.

[Tallguy]

“One would think the snowflakes and the liberal whining mayors would be demanding a removal of all Grant statues across the nation.”

Give them time. Most of the snowflakes supporting the statue removals are ignorant of the facts. When somebody in their movement begins beating the drum about US Grant’s having owned slaves, then we move to Phase 2 of the Great US Historical Re-Write.

[RFEngineer]

“(flame me)”

You are uncommonly stupid, and you have no idea with whom you are dealing on the left.

You can’t just post and claim anyone who doesn’t wish to bury history or who wishes to honor Confederate figures (who are and were as American as you) is somehow racist.

You fail to appreciate what is happening before your eyes.

You like many idiots who pontificate on the subject think that the South is still somehow not as American as pecan pie and that we should take orders as if we aren’t Americans.

[OIFVeteran]

I don’t believe that confederate monuments should be removed because of racism. They should be removed because the confederacy was a rebellion against a constitutionally elected government that attempted to destroy our great republic. If the newly freed African-Americans had not had their voting and other rights suppressed by their states most of these monuments would never had gone up.

[Altura Ct.]

Don’t think it will just be flags and statues. Next, there will be book burnings and destruction of private property belonging to people deemed enemies of the state. That is the bottom line. Always has been. They are to destroy the West and the Confederates are just the starting point.

[PeaRidge]

Nonsensical analysis.

Clearly the conflict was the Lincoln cabal, its military, and Northern state militias moving South and firing on the people.

[Original Lurker]

Your assertion is not only sophomoric but right out of a government school textbook.

There’s a spiritual war going on in this nation and it’s being fought at every level.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-is-not-representative-of-country-2014-7

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Clearly the conflict was the Lincoln cabal, its military, and Northern state militias moving South and firing on the people.

I don't think it was Lincoln, his cabal or the Northern state militias who fired the first shots at Ft. Sumter. And the large numbers of southerners who served in the Union army should cast doubt on the framing of the Civil War as a war of North versus South.

[OIFVeteran]

No, it was a bunch of southern states having a hissy fit because someone they didn’t like got elected. They had tried to bully the rest of the states in the election of 1856 by threatening to secede if the republicans won the presidential election. They threatened again in the 1860 election, but the northern and western states were having none of it.

[ought-six]

Amen.

[DoodleDawg]

The Confederate flag is an inanimate object and cannot be, in and of itself, racist. Or patriotic for that matter. It’s what people do with it that makes it one or the other.