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How Could a “Clever” Smoker Possibly Become Ill?
The Coach's Team ^ | 4/6/17 | Doug Book

Posted on 04/06/2017 9:04:34 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

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1 posted on 04/06/2017 9:04:35 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Hmmm. Not sure if I’ll succeed but I had the last one in a pack on Tuesday around noon and, being that it was Mrs. rktman’s birthday, I told her I would finally quit with the cigs. She quit a year and a half ago. Have done some things that would normally spur me to fire up but hangin’ in so far. Do I want one? Hell yeah. But, I ain’t buying or bummin’ so far. As far as succeeding, I can do this. Not too cranky so far from nic wifdrawls.


2 posted on 04/06/2017 9:12:19 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

There are horror stories as well of people going onto the Nicorette gum, and either taking too much or smoking on top of it. Death by nicotine overdose. Any nicotine at all is also bad if you have high cholesterol. It basically magnifies the effect.


3 posted on 04/06/2017 9:12:32 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Oldpuppymax

All true - but vaping is still far better than unfiltered camels.

I’ve seen vaping help many people I know gradually reduce cigarette smoking, people who never were able to quit “cold turkey.”

Funny the author knocks it, because it also clearly helped him reduce a very dangerous habit of unfiltered camels, down to something much less.


4 posted on 04/06/2017 9:13:17 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Oldpuppymax

I don’t smoke, but I am curious.

The story doesn’t say why or how the collapsed lung is related to his oral swirling of the nicotine vapor. Or was it that vaporized vegetable oil gave him a chemical injury to the lung?


5 posted on 04/06/2017 9:13:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: rktman

Good luck! How sweet of you to quit for Mrs. rktman’s birthday.


6 posted on 04/06/2017 9:16:11 AM PDT by NEMDF
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For nicotine is the real culprit in cigarette tobacco, not tar or those other evil chemicals smokers have heard about for years on end. It’s nicotine that’s the real killer. As for my clever decision to switch to Electronic Cigarettes and avoid inhaling—I was kidding myself. I didn’t know. It seemed a damned good idea at the time. But not after talking with half a dozen doctors, each telling me just how dumb I was...

Maybe the guy who wrote this story could produce some articles published in medical journals to back up his assertions. If not, I'd bet that his half dozen doctors only exist in his imagination.

7 posted on 04/06/2017 9:16:35 AM PDT by Wissa (I took a little stroll to the Red Dog Saloon.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Thank you very much. I read the article and was not able to make the connection from vaping to collapsed lung. Unless he REALLY exhales the vapor.


8 posted on 04/06/2017 9:17:21 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: PGR88

[people who never were able to quit “cold turkey]

Thread a horse hair through your cigarette and inhale. You’ll never smoke again.


9 posted on 04/06/2017 9:18:17 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Oldpuppymax

To truly quit all forms of tobacco takes a real triumph of the will.

I did it in 1971.


10 posted on 04/06/2017 9:20:49 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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P4L


11 posted on 04/06/2017 9:21:17 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Oldpuppymax

Smoked unfiltered Camels for 39 years, but it’s the 7 years of vaping that’s the culprit?


12 posted on 04/06/2017 9:21:42 AM PDT by chrisser
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How Could a “Clever” Smoker Possibly Become Ill?

Everybody eventually become ill, no matter what you do or don't do.

13 posted on 04/06/2017 9:21:45 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Not sure about the “oral swirling”, but you can absorb nicotine through your sinuses without it ever touching your lungs. Too much and there’s organ failure, maybe a collapsed lung. My main fear was lung cancer which drove me to quit. But there are all kinds of other things nicotine can do to you. Heart failure in particular. In this case, lung failure.


14 posted on 04/06/2017 9:23:58 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: chrisser
Smoked unfiltered Camels for 39 years, but it’s the 7 years of vaping that’s the culprit?

That was his conclusion. And he has the nerve to call other people "morons"!
15 posted on 04/06/2017 9:24:59 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Telepathic Intruder
In this case, lung failure.

Do you have any medical literature to back up this assertion?
16 posted on 04/06/2017 9:26:20 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: chrisser

Smoked unfiltered Camels for 39 years, but it’s the 7 years of vaping that’s the culprit?


That’s a good point. The vaping didn’t cause the cancer. Vaping gives one a nicotine “hit”, not the chemicals in tobacco smoke.


17 posted on 04/06/2017 9:26:31 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
My dad is 81. He smoked when he was a teenager but stopped shorty after accepting Christ at 17. (He and his buddies went to an outdoor revival to make fun of the proceedings while drinking beer in back of a pickup. By the end of the week he had given his life to God and surrendered to the ministry; he still pastors a church today.)

A couple of years ago he had a chest xray, the dr said, “you use to be a smoker, right?” For about 3 years, 60 years ago, and even though it was minor, the dr could see the damage.

18 posted on 04/06/2017 9:26:55 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: jjsheridan5

Did you read the article?


19 posted on 04/06/2017 9:28:20 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Oldpuppymax

Thanks for sharing your story. I hope you have fully recovered & are free of nicotine addiction.

I quit smoking cold turkey in 1998 or so. I was up to 2 & 1/2 packs a day. I quit primarily because of the expense. Professionally it was a great choice because I gained a full octave in my vocal range. Economically it was a great choice because we suddenly had an extra $100.00 a month (at that time) or more to spend on other things.

Smoking cigarettes is unwise on every level. Putting a known poison into our bodies is an act of stupidity, IMO.


20 posted on 04/06/2017 9:28:45 AM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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