Posted on 03/28/2017 8:09:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Sounds remarkably like the plan that Rand Paul, an actual doctor that has had to deal with the nightmare of o’care, has put forward and has put forward for years.
Put forward for years? Maybe Rand should spent a little less time self servingly bloviating on Hannity and little more working with his colleague to support his bill.
“Do you know how expensive and shi—y COBRA is?”
Cobra is expensive, but it is the same plan you had at your last job...at least it used to be.
Yes, I do; however, those who WERE being covered through an employer, NEVER paid the whole freight. Should the employer be held responsible, to continue to pay for the health insurance of someone who no longer works for the company, as is suggested by a part of the article/get to still pay a lesser amount, to the insurance company, out the insurance company’s “compassion?
It is illuminating to see who all rejects true free market reforms and falls back on cult of personality demagoguing.
It still is; it just cost you more.
SPOT ON!
And, deregulate healthcare. The cost of complying with layer upon layer of pointless regulations is killing the practice of medicine, without contributing to better care for patients. Not to mention the direct cost of paying millions of medical bureaucrats.
If the keyword there is “pointless” I agree with you completely. I am not up to speed on what de-regulating health care would entail.
The founder of FR wants Obamacare repealed. Period.
If you’re opposed to that, you’re on the wrong site.
So you are in favor of Obamacare. Not full repeal. Nice.
Again, you are on the wrong site. Go back to DU.
How would #2 work? I've worked at companies that have fantastic insurance, and others not so much?
It'll never happen, because Trump and his supporters don't want any kind of conservative healthcare.
There are many differences between the US and Switzerland.
And the Swiss have a great system where everyone is legally required to purchase their own health insurance.
I understand Jim Thompson is for repealing Obamacare.
I understand I am disagreeing.
I even wrote him a note saying how very much I like this website, and that I understand I am putting everything on the line by daring to speak up on the issue. I have donated here, more than once, and it is the number one site I go to all the time.
But on this one issue, I respectfully disagree.
I told him that. I really, really hope I do not get zotted, it would be a horrible experience. But I feel strongly that every single American needs health insurance.
Every one.
From somewhere.
I know about the issue you raised. I understand I am taking my FRness into my hands, with what I am saying now.
But there it is.
I have been here since 2005. It is my main source of news. I would not know what to do without FR.
But on this one issue, I have my own view. I am grateful the boss has allowed me to state it here, and I am 100% a FReeper.
In fact I glad to be back in the states, for the next fundraising which starts next week, and I will be sending in my contribution.
Just saying.
Anyone reading this, is welcome to donate next week, as well.
:D
huh ? what the heck ?
Oops.. Wrong son
:)
Another plan mistaking “health insurance” for “health care”. Insurance, by its nature, breaks the free-market link between customer and seller.
What we need are ways to make providing actual health care less expensive. Kill all the barriers to entry, from the AMA defining what a “doctor” is, to limiting the FDA to preventing toxicity, to barring the local government from limiting what procedures nurses can perform, to allowing unlimited re-importation of pharmaceuticals. Require all prices be posted and agreed in writing prior to service. Fast track licensing of doctors already certified in select partner countries like England, Canada, and Germany.
Finally, nobody seems to link tax reform and healthcare costs: Everybody involved in providing health care is in the upper middle class tax bracket — at least. That means that the Feds and State between them are taking 50 cents of every dollar these people earn. A flat tax rate of 10% would allow doctors and nurses to charge much less while keeping more after taxes.
“There are many differences between the US and Switzerland.”
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Yes, there are. For starters, Switzerland has roughly the same population as New York City, 8.29 million.
America has 330 million +, in addition to 30 million to 50 million illegal aliens.
I’ll also go out on a limb and say that Switzerland doesn’t have millions of people who are trying to win the lawsuit lottery.
All COBRA is is the plan your employer furnished but the employer no longer paid a portion of it
Don't every American "deserve" to have food, clothing, shelter, a job, a car, a BIG SCREEN T.V., an iPhone, a laptop and a computer, cable T.V., two months a year of vacation, big pensions, and more? /s
People who are penurious, DO get FREE health care; no insurance required and they don't even have to be citizens!
The ONLY reason that many employers offer health insurance plans, today, is because during WW II, raises were frowned on, so the Unions pushed for employer health insurance. That was the start of it all and most companies didn't offer such plans for a long time.
People bought their own insurance and/or made deals with doctors...to pay off bills, monthly.
Some fraternal and charitable ethnic clubs, which started here, in the mid 1800s, raised money, through dues, balls, picnics, and other such things, not only set up funds for widows and orphans, paid a kind of unemployment benefits, burial benefits, bought large swath in cemeteries, for lowish prices so that they could be offered to the members at lower costs, AND they even donated beds and/or floors of hospitals, so that their members could uses the facilities and those beds, when they or a family member was in need of such things.
So please explain to me,as well as the other posters, just WHY government "owes" us some kind of health insurance.
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