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Greenfield: 3 Questions to Keep Future Muslim Terrorists Out of America
The Sultan Knish blog ^ | Tuesday, January 31, 2017 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 02/01/2017 11:01:02 AM PST by Louis Foxwell

3 Questions to Keep Future Muslim Terrorists Out of America Posted by Daniel Greenfield

The Nonimmigrant Visa application form filled out by the 9/11 hijackers asked, “Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization?” They checked the box that said, ‘No’ and they were in.

The current incarnation of the form asks the same perfunctory and generic question. An actual terrorist is as likely to check the box as he is to finger a rosary while eating a ham sandwich and singing Hava Nagila. But since 9/11, the terrorist threat has evolved from foreign cells penetrating this country to domestic Islamist terrorists emerging out of Muslim settlements already occupying this country.

Most Islamic terrorists that the FBI has been dealing with had no specific terror plans at the time that they entered this country. Some Islamic terrorists, like the Tsarnaev perpetrators of the Boston Marathon bombing, came here as children. Others, like Omar Mateen, the Pulse shooter, and Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood killer, contrived to be born in this country to foreign parents.

Immigration screening has to do more than just ask terrorists to check a box if they plan to fly planes into our skyscrapers. We must identify visitors and immigrants who are at a high risk of becoming terrorists in the first or second generation. The only way to do this is with a holistic strategy that examines the worldview of new immigrants and the Islamic communities they intend to be part of.

Instead of checking a perfunctory box, it is important to interrogate how a Muslim applicant views his religion and its interaction with the rest of the world. And to examine the mosque he plans to attend.

For example, attendees at the infamous Dar Al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia included Nidal Hasan, its former Imam was Al Qaeda leader Anwar Al-Awlaki, and a number of key figures associated with the mosque were linked to Islamic terrorism. Any Muslim immigrants planning to attend the mosque could be considered at high risk for engaging in terrorism regardless of their stated views. Our current screening methods are laughably crude.

The immigrant visa form asks about engaging in and funding terrorism. It does not however specify what a terrorist group is. Muslims define terrorism differently and do not consider many of the Islamic terror groups listed on the State Department’s Foreign Terrorist Organizations list to be terrorists.

It asks about membership in the “Communist or other totalitarian party” and participation in various Columbian terrorist and militant organizations. Despite the thousands of people killed by Islamic terrorists in this country in the last few decades, it fails to ask anything about specific Islamist groups.

That should change.

Despite all the assurances about vetting, the forms don’t even bother to ask about membership in Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas or their parent organization, the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is to Islamic terrorism what the Communist party was to subversive and terrorist groups during the Cold War.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a totalitarian organization. Its motto is, “Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Quran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.” This credo reflects the objective of a theocratic Islamic State to be achieved through any means: including violence. Its members have perpetrated and aided Islamic terrorism here and around the world. These include Osama bin Laden, Yasser Arafat and the Brotherhood perpetrators of the genocide in Sudan.

Any Muslim immigrant who had ties to the Brotherhood has falsely answered the question and should be deported. If he falsely answered this question on his naturalization application, he should be subject to denaturalization and deported. Any Muslim who has subsequently become involved with Muslim Brotherhood front groups such as CAIR, ISNA, the MSA and countless others, should be investigated for pre-existing links with the terror network and prevented from becoming a citizen of this country.

Communities where Muslim immigrants propose to settle should be tested for their extremism levels as defined by the preponderance of Muslim Brotherhood institutions. Muslim immigrants who seek out communities under the influence of Brotherhood institutions should be considered at a higher risk of engaging in terrorism either in the first or second generation without regard for their current views.

Our goal is not just to stop terror plots now. Our goal must be to stop terrorism a decade from now.

Our counterterrorism is reactive instead of proactive. Reactive counterterrorism is measured by the time we have to react. When a terrorist opens fire in a shopping mall, reaction time is measured in minutes or seconds. His original descent into Islamic terror plots may go on for months or years. But the closer we get to the source of the problem, the more lead time we have until we are no longer reactive, but proactive. Instead of rushing to stop the next attack, we can transform the entire battlefield.

That must be our objective.

Our biggest problem is that we aren’t asking the right questions. Asking a Muslim if he is a terrorist is the wrong question. Islamic terrorists don’t see themselves as terrorists. They view themselves as devout Muslims. That is how we must see them if we are to find them out and stop them before they strike.

The root cause of Islamic terrorism is the idea that Muslims are superior and non-Muslims are inferior. Exposing this conviction won’t be done with a terrorism check box. Many Muslims who go on to commit acts of terror in the name of Islamic Supremacism have no such plans when they enter the country. They do however believe that there is a primal struggle between Muslims and non-Muslims. It is this belief that they eventually put into practice at some later date by actually engaging in Islamist violence.

Instead of asking them whether they are terrorists, we ought to ask them how they view their participation in American life in light of the Koranic verse that commands Muslims, "O you who believe, do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends. ”And whether they are willing to disavow the message of such terrorist verses of the Koran as, “Do not take friends from them unless they migrate in the Way of Allah. But if they turn away (from Islam), seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”

If they are not willing to disavow calls for the murder of non-Muslims, such as, "I will cast terror into the hearts of non-believers. Therefore strike off their heads”, they present a serious terrorism risk.

Can we really afford to allow Muslim immigrants into the United States who believe that they ought to "fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief: i.e. worshiping others besides Allah) and the religion will all be for Allah"? What better predictor of terror risk could there be than those who believe that they must “kill the non-believers wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them?” This is the origin of Islamic terrorism. It’s the acid test for every Muslim migrant.

It all comes down to three simple questions.

1. Have you ever had any associations with the Muslim Brotherhood or any of its front groups?

2. Will you commit to avoiding associations with Brotherhood mosques and other entities in this country? Are you aware that you may be deported if you do not?

3. Do you disavow the following verses of the Koran calling for violence against non-Muslims?

Such simple questions are far more relevant than a terrorism check box because they address what terrorists actually believe, not what we believe about them. They will not stop an active terrorist, but asking them will help keep out the terrorists of tomorrow.

They are not the final step. But they are a first step that can easily be taken next.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: greenfield; mbinfiltration; mbterrorists; muslimbrotherhood; sultanknish; usjihad
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To: Louis Foxwell

What’s the difference between islam and radical islam?

Anyone know?

(ISIS boss, Al-Baghdadi, says there is none. And he should be the expert on the subject.)


21 posted on 02/01/2017 11:47:02 AM PST by 353FMG (AMERICA FIRST.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Good questions, but aren’t Muslims told that they can lie as long as the lies allow them to secure the goals of Islam?


22 posted on 02/01/2017 11:48:31 AM PST by relentlessly
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To: Louis Foxwell

I suggest that rather than ask questions and perhaps allow entry, you gain an understanding of Muslims, Islam and their belief system. One of the best ways to understand is from those who have learned the hard way, i.e.

1. Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary pirates or more recently

2. Trevor Phillips, the former chief of Britain’s Equalities and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) and propagator of the phrase “Islamaphobia”, has admitted that the path that Britain has been on for years is a catastrophic failure. Muslims won’t assimilate and become loyal Britons.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/10/geller-uk-equalities-chief-admits-wrong-muslims-wont-assimilate/

“For a long time, I too thought that Europe’s Muslims would become like previous waves of migrants, gradually abandoning their ancestral ways, wearing their religious and cultural baggage lightly, and gradually blending into Britain’s diverse identity landscape. I should have known better.” Instead, he wrote, Muslims are creating “nations within nations” in the West.

Muslims are the only immigrant group that comes to Western countries with a ready-made model of society and government (sharia) which they believe to be superior to what we have here, and they work to institute it.”

The Muslim Brotherhood authored “The Project” which identifies specific goals for Islamists to rebuild the global caliphate based upon reaching % goals of a region or countries population made up by Muslims.

Solution - do not allow muslims to enter.


23 posted on 02/01/2017 12:02:56 PM PST by CitizenBob
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To: Louis Foxwell

I would prefer we just ban ALL foreign muslims until THEY take care of the radical lunatics screwing up their religion. Why must the US pay in blood just so we can be nice? Why do we owe ANY foreign muslim ANYTHING?


24 posted on 02/01/2017 12:04:58 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: Mr. K

Or have them draw a picture of Mohamad. For some strange reason that makes them angry and if they are that thin skinned, they wouldn’t do well in the US anyway because the US is melting pot where someone will eventually do something that anger you.


25 posted on 02/01/2017 12:05:50 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Louis Foxwell

Putting Muslims on par with illegal immigrants.....one question. To illegals getting driver’s licenses in California.....Are you eligible to vote? To Muslims coming in......Are you a terrorist? What incentive is there for telling the truth on either question????


26 posted on 02/01/2017 12:22:08 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Re: Have you ever had any associations with the Muslim Brotherhood or any of it’s from groups?

They should have asked this question of those in the Obama Admin, before allowing any of them into any position of security.


27 posted on 02/01/2017 12:27:03 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Mr. K

The one and only question is: “How would you like a bite of this nice juicy Wendy’s Baconator sandwich?”


Muslims are forgiven all sins in the pursuit of jihad. Eating pork is OK if it furthers jihad.


28 posted on 02/01/2017 12:32:28 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: Louis Foxwell

(An excerpt from my next novel, set a few years into the European Civil War.)

“What about England and the UK? How’s it going there?”

“Well, let’s just say that we’re taking extreme measures to ensure the loyalty of the remaining ex-Muslims. After the Paris attacks, we weren’t going to wait around to see what happened to Buckingham Palace and Big Ben.”

“Ex-Muslims?”

“Those are the only kind we have left in Britain. Ex-Muslims. They had to renounce Islam and pledge eternal loyalty to king and country. And all of the mosques were leveled, plowed under, and sown with pigs’ offal.”

“Pigs’ offal?”

“So help me.”

“What happened to the ones who wouldn’t renounce Islam?”

“They were allowed to leave on ships, most of them. But I’m shedding no tears for the Muslims that left the UK in one piece. They got off easy, and lucky, after what was done to the Christians back in their homelands.”

“You say ‘they’ in the UK and ‘they’ in the Middle East like they’re the same people. Weren’t a lot of your Muslims born in the UK?”

“Doesn’t matter where they were born, they’re all one and the same. It’s how they always looked at the world anyway, Islam versus the rest. The worldwide Umma, and all that rot. In the end, the Muslims didn’t want to assimilate, they didn’t want to become Britons at all. They came to conquer, or rather, to be parasites until they killed their host and took over that way. The war of the womb, outbreeding us five to one. They just wanted to live on the dole in their Sharia zones and force Islam down everybody’s throat, step by step. Well, that non-assimilation turned out to be a double-edged sword. They didn’t want to become British? Fine. They identified as Muslims first? Great. That made it easier to bin them all when it came down to them or us. They were never our countrymen. They were just invaders, and in the end we spit them out.”

“Even the ones who were born in the UK?”

“They all had to go, unless they renounced Islam, renounced Sharia, and pledged loyalty to the king. Even the so-called white Muslims, the converts. And just like in France, we started with cleaning up the military.”

“So the only ones that are left in England are—”

“The only ones left are the ex-Muslims.”

“But how can you trust them? You know they’re allowed to lie to infidels.”

“Of course I know that, everybody does. But they had to swear the pledge while standing on the Saudi flag, facing the Union Jack and a picture of the king. You know what’s written on the Saudi flag, right?”

“The main Muslim prayer, the Shahada: ‘There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is his messenger.’ The green Saudi flag is basically the same as the black flag of jihad, except for the color.”

“Right. They have to wipe their feet on the Shahada flag, spit on it, and pledge loyalty to king and country. And it’s all on videos. Tends to separate the sheep from the goats, knowing they can never live among practicing Muslims ever again. In the end, most of them went through the ritual. And most of them said they were glad to do it.”
“Even so, Colonel, I wouldn’t trust them. The Koran tells them to lie to infidels if it helps to spread Islam.”
“The sincere ex-Muslims are the best at sniffing out the fakers. They know that if there’s any more Muslim terrorism in the UK, they’ll all be deported next time—every last one of them. And they don’t want to go back, oh no, they don’t want to go back. Being dropped off on a deserted stretch of the Libyan beach is not very pleasant, I’d imagine. And after they take the king’s oath standing on the Saudi flag, it’s a death sentence if they’re ever sent back to a Muslim country. It’s all on video. They know full well they have the most to lose from any more Muslim terrorism in Britain. They’re the best ferrets we have, the sincere ex-Muslims. Most of them became Christians, just prove their loyalty even more strongly. Anyway, there’s not many left. Most of them went home on the ships. Better than ninety percent. The ex-Muslims who are left are a good lot, by and large. King and country.”

“It’s hard to believe they’d just agree to leave like that.”

“They didn’t have much choice about it. Remember, this all happened soon after Paris and the start of the French Civil War. We were all watching it on the telly, hour by hour. The Muslims in the UK knew that if we went in hard, like the French Army did, the only alternative to deportation was dying in the rubble. The French example was staring them in the face. Anyway, most of them are still alive—which is more than you can say for the Christians in the Middle East.”

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/bracken-sends-96/


29 posted on 02/01/2017 12:40:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Louis Foxwell

How can we keep muslim terrorists out of America when we refuse to write laws to keep them out permanently? We shall have to be on guard against them as long as islam exists.


30 posted on 02/01/2017 12:52:51 PM PST by 353FMG (AMERICA FIRST.)
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To: beethovenfan

“I’d only believe them if in addition to answering the questions they would eat a ham sandwich and drink a beer in the presence of the agent.”

Not a good test, definitively. When I was student, I knew many Morrocan students (some of them were good friends) who have no problem drinking beer, eating non-kosher and not observing ramadan fasting. And who, with hindsight (I was too young and naive to be aware of the true nature of Islam), have a quite islamic view of the world (Islam is great, Coran is reveled truth, the West is decadent, polygamy is justified etc).

Islam immigration must be stopped, period. Then organisations linked to islam banned. Then mosques closed. Then assimilate muslims (that can not be deported) as fast as possible into christianity or secularism.
Any half-step against such dangerous (and successful in term of invasion) ideology will end up in failure.


31 posted on 02/01/2017 1:39:08 PM PST by miniTAX
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To: marktwain

I don’t think it is

It seems to be the one kryptonite

And we would do well to make sure they continue to think that.


32 posted on 02/01/2017 2:01:25 PM PST by Mr. K ( Trump kicked her ass 2-to-1 if you remove all the voter fraud.)
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To: Travis McGee

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4187460/Lovre-evacuated-Paris.html


33 posted on 02/03/2017 10:58:18 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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