Posted on 12/15/2016 11:00:11 AM PST by w1n1
We have numerous such packs, N Oregon Coast.
We have a couple of roving coyote packs in my neighborhood. I hear them howling and yipping at night. No deer, just small critters.
On the flip side - tasty deer are having an effect on the coyote population....
We have both deer and Coyotes where I live. I’ve seen a lot of deer on my property, heard a lot of Coyotes and seen one saunter by my bedroom window. I like ‘em both, but I carry a gun when I go for walks.
Wait a minute ...
Wait a minute ...
Are we discovering that predators have an impact on prey populations?? This could be big news!!
Allow me to hypothesize a couple steps further ...
as prey populations decline, predators will have a shortage of food which will cause predator populations to decline.
And as predator populations decline, perhaps prey populations will recover!
It’s simply staggering that no one ever noticed this stuff before! [heavy sarcasm]
...and tasty cats, and tasty dogs...its a smorgasbourg.
Which we could import some to our area.
We just had an olive tree planted to replace rock roses devoured by local deer.
Supposedly deer don’t eat olive trees. The second night about 1/5 of our olive tree’s lower branches were eaten by the local deer. Our yard guy and I put a temp fence around the tree. Hope it works.
About a decade ago, we often had nocturnal visits by a cougar. He/she put a severe dent in the deer population.
You and I can apply for a billion $’s in studies to prove your theory. That should give our kin jobs for the rest of this century.
But yet, biologists marvel at how the coyote adapted to this change. The coyote not only adapted, but thrived even in human presence--look at the fact the residents of San Francisco report coyote sightings around Golden Gate Park, of all things! And even that population at Golden Gate Park does very well.
No, they are coy-dogs or coy-wolves, coyote-wolf hybrids that evolved in a corner of Canada where coyotes bred with wolves. The hybrids have bigger jaws and groups to take down deer (which coyotes can’t do) but are smaller than wolves so they don’t get shot, have less fear of human inhabited areas and can survive in breeding pairs off railroad tracks and highway overpasses.
Those are some quite large coyotes.
Lost a cat this spring to coyotes, daughter was heartbroken, me not so much ‘cause that cat hated me and actively looked for opportunities to pee on my clothes. But we hear them tearing apart a deer in our field or the neighbor’s about 5-6 times a year. Big packs on my game cameras, as many as 12 at once in frame, usually 1-3 though.
3rd one was spooked in front of the cam,sound,smell ?? It turned back
Any one know where the vid was shot ?
I used to hunt deer on a certain person’s private land and at the outset he made one rule very clear. If I was ever hunting, saw a coyote and failed to shoot it, I would not be allowed to hunt there anymore.
So do we now, NE Ohio ... believe it or not. If they were only taking deer they’d be doing the area a favor. We’re overrun with white tail. But people are warned not to let their leashed dog get away from them. If it gets away into our thick valley woods and is lost it will get caught on something and won’t make it through the night. Coyote bait. My neighbor has managed to shoot a couple on his property. They’re considered vermin, open season year round, no limit.
The primary diet of coyotes is rabbits. Rabbits depleted they resort to wolf like takedown of slow old or injured deer. A good thing for both pack and herd health.
We have a lot of deer and coyotes in our area.Every year I find the remains of young fawns killed by these coyotes.We shoot every coyote we see now.
We used to have lots of wild rabbits (OK) and groundhogs (Bad) in IL. Now they are all gone. Coyotes are considered the reason. Still plenty of deer but if the coyotes get hungry enough...... Also no tortoises, but coyotes aren’t blamed. Not sure why.
Why, nature doesn’t need your help. Coyotes are part of the plan, it’s a shame there are people like you. I hunt, but never fail to get one and we have boatloads of Coyotes around here. Coyotes are not vermon, I don’t get guys like you.
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