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1 posted on 11/19/2016 5:04:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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If you visit the Kiawnis here in Panama City, FL, You will be fed great buffet and meet a lot of nice people to lunch with.


2 posted on 11/19/2016 5:30:31 PM PST by capt. norm (Capt norm)
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"Repealing the 17th would begin the process of rolling back the federal domination and restore the balance between the states and national government, in that state could evolve to become unique entities rather than this homogenized iApple/Google/Gap behaving people we have become. (Maybe this too Ron Paul?)”

Good point !

But if the states repeal 17A, they also need to put a stop to unconstititional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped, the states will probably find a tsunami of new revenues that they won’t know what to do with.

3 posted on 11/19/2016 5:34:22 PM PST by Amendment10
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If California and New England want tol eave I amall for it.


4 posted on 11/19/2016 5:36:13 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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This is a procedural change to a systemic philosophical problem. Our people do not believe in liberty!


8 posted on 11/19/2016 6:34:55 PM PST by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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Repeal the 17th is a start, but we can go further - some states need to be broken down into smaller states.

Upstate NY, Southern IL, and CA should be broken down.

9 posted on 11/19/2016 6:40:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Democracy is the backup QB to a dictatorship)
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And the 19th ...


10 posted on 11/19/2016 6:45:36 PM PST by bankwalker (Does a fish know that it's wet?)
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if we’re fixing mistakes it’s long past time to revisit the 19th too


13 posted on 11/19/2016 9:46:23 PM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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The 17th Amendment enables judicial activism, which is primarily directed against the authority of the states. E.g., Rove v. Wade - the overturning of which, as Republicans often note, would return the issue to the state governments. If the Senate were again beholden to the state legislatures, rulings which denigrate the rights of the states might get you convicted of impeachment.

Unfortunately, repeal of 17A is a heavy lift. I have wondered if a new amendment changing the senator’s terms to four years, and making senators running mates of the governors might work. The idea would be to make the senators dependent on the state government in some way, at least. One thought would be to make the governor able to take office as senator four years after election as governor. Thus, if the governor doesn’t win reelection, the senator who ran with him(or her) would tend to lose his job. Every governor would be, potentially, a senator - thereby making governors larger VIPs in Washington.


14 posted on 11/20/2016 9:23:46 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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