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To: Chasaway

Not old. From 2014. The voting machines are the same.


18 posted on 10/25/2016 8:51:23 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Helicondelta

Voting with any machine today does not ascertain for whom a vote was cast. That is why most European and many Latin American nations have returned to paper ballots. Only paper enables an audit. Machines don’t really matter because, as Obama himself observed today, “There can’t be voter fraud in Ohio because the tabulating is all done by Democrats.” That is a paraphrase, but Obama, who never once claimed to be a natural born citizen, was again honest. He was telling us, if we make the effort to listen carefully, that if there is any counting, it is performed by SEIU employees. Socialism, redistribution is now insured. Even with negative GDP growth and all manufacturing is done by other nations, our government employees will live comfortably. He was telling progressives and unionized government employees that they have nothing to worry about.

There is no reason to assume voting is representative. We were created as a Representative Democracy. If there is not representation we have mob rule, which is what a Democracy is. The Obama’s may move to another country and the Clintons still have an illegal foundation that took in 250 million dollars selling influence to global interests, like our Uranium to Russia and manufacturing to whomever will pay-to-play, while relating our manufacturing, which was once the best paid, and the most productive, unemployed with treaties that still reward our biggest banks while moving production to TPP nations.

We are one of few nations remaining who have not returned to paper ballots, and not done so because those in power, both political parties, don’t want to accept what and whom citizens might choose. Germany’s Supreme Court responded to a challenge against computerized voting and decided that only paper ballots had a chance of helping insure government by the and for the people. Brexit was accomplished because paper ballots and in-precinct voting were both required. Mexico requires biometric identification, used paper ballots, and counts the ballots in the precinct, with observers from all parties present, before the ballots are sealed and stored in bonded warehouses, never to be touched without a court order for a recount.

Trump is one of few who has shown no fear of the truth. The left is only afraid of WikiLeaks and James O’Keefe, having turned our Justice Department and FBI into criminal agencies, headed by former members of the same cabal. it probably began long ago, but Bill Clinton revived reputation of a crooked government when he acquired, and refused to return the raw FBI files for all members of Congress. Congressmen can make lots more money, and double it after their terms, or find themselves facing charges they haven’t the resources to fight in court, which is hopeless since federal judges too are all political appointees. Without verifiable voting we have lost our freedom, and, as Hillary has explained, “our (inalienable) rights will be subject to reasonable legal oversight.”


19 posted on 10/25/2016 11:26:46 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Helicondelta

See #16.


22 posted on 10/26/2016 4:05:28 AM PDT by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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