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One of These 7 Guns is the Next “Official Sidearm of the US Military”
The Patriot Caller ^ | 10/10/2016

Posted on 10/20/2016 7:47:19 AM PDT by Elderberry

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To: Lurkinanloomin

Why? Are they easier to hit with a plastic gun?


61 posted on 10/20/2016 10:11:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: D Rider

No thank you.

I compete with an old Kimber and, until recently, an Ultra Carry was my EDC. Just bought an M&P Shield because it’s lighter, smaller and shoots well. God forbid I ever have to use it, I’m surrendering a $400.00 appliance, not a $1,000.00 piece I care about.


62 posted on 10/20/2016 10:12:02 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

A matter of taste. Prefer the XDS to the M&P shield. I just shoot it better. I also like the short clip for CC. Extra mags are the long ones.


63 posted on 10/20/2016 10:27:42 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: MHGinTN

LOL, I was referring to the transgendered in the ranks using those weapons.


64 posted on 10/20/2016 10:29:03 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Elderberry

XDM or M&P.
While the Glocks are just as reliable their factory triggers are about the worst I’ve ever used. Not to mention their beefy & bulky grips.


65 posted on 10/20/2016 10:33:28 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: D Rider

Both excellent guns, but the XDS is manufactured in Croatia, and the Shield is made in the US.

What really pissed me off is, as soon as I bought the Shield, they came out with it in .45. Only a tiny bit bigger. I may have another 4473 in my future.


66 posted on 10/20/2016 10:51:36 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
"... built in Croatia"

Which brings us back to the original discussion, the best side arm (and caliber,) for the US Military. Using JHP's, the reason for the the .45 over the 9mm is greatly diminished. But the Military does not use JHP's, so I would recommend we go back to the .45 to produce a nice large wound cavity.

67 posted on 10/20/2016 11:04:20 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Little Ray

I don’t think so. I understand the frame isn’t strong enough for a 45. I believe there are some in 10mm though.


68 posted on 10/20/2016 11:12:58 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: KC_Lion

A warrant for your arrest is out... Recalling disallowed matters ! Your specific charge: Yesterday..../sarc


69 posted on 10/20/2016 11:44:29 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Elderberry

70 posted on 10/20/2016 2:32:40 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
I built a Para-Ordnance P13.45 from one of their frame kits and aftermarket G.I. parts. My P-O carries 13+1 rounds of .45 ACP vs. 7+1 for the M1911A1, yet it weighs the same. The frame accommodates a double stack magazine but is only 1/8-inch wider than the M1911A1. I like this pistol very much and it gets the job done very nicely, thank you.
71 posted on 10/20/2016 2:34:38 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX:)
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To: MHGinTN

Initial beretta model 92’s had frame mounted safeties as well. Hell, the taurus model 92 is built on former beretta tooling in a factory formerly owned by beretta. Beretta changed the safety / decocker design after it sold the factory to taurus. The taurus is not a copy.

CC


72 posted on 10/20/2016 2:43:36 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Elderberry

The company that made the largest donation to the Clinton Foundation will win the contract.


73 posted on 10/20/2016 2:45:49 PM PDT by Redcloak (Error 404: Tagline not found.)
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To: 556x45

Well, amazing we won two world wars with such a piece of crap.

I used one for 32 years in the Army and have my own Model 70 without any problems.

Oh, yeah. After seven shots, I have to reload.


74 posted on 10/20/2016 3:25:27 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Time for a new party for We the People, to restore a two-party system!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I have two AF models, one with a rail and one without. Great shooters.


75 posted on 10/20/2016 4:34:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

I’ve owned both a taurus and beretta 92. Functionally and practically I could see no difference, both put the bullet on paper so long as I did My part. I currently own 2 tauruses (taurii?) a revolver and a semiauto. They tag team back and forth as My EDC depending on my clothing choices. People rag on Taurus to me all the time. My first question to them is if they’ve ever carried or shot one. The answer is always “no”. So much for informed opinion.

CC


76 posted on 10/20/2016 4:49:00 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: ThinkingBuddha; wardaddy

My Colt 1911 Gov’t 70 with 230 ball never hiccups. Plus unlike the others you mentioned, it fits my hand perfectly. Comfortable pistols are shot a lot more.


77 posted on 10/20/2016 5:17:26 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Elderberry; All

The FiveseveN is basically a rifle cartridge shot out of a pistol, and has virtually no recoil so follow-up shots are on target. The good ammo while small in caliber crates cavitation on par with .45 ACP. In addition, the 20 round magazines hold nearly 3 times that of the 1911, at a fraction of the weight.

If money were no object this would be the choice hands down. Keep in mind that this gun is used to protect the Queen of England, and the bullpup version, the P90, is used by the Secret Service to Protect the President of the United States. Speaks volumes about this gun and this cartridge.


78 posted on 10/20/2016 5:22:59 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Forgot to add, I have a PS90 (the semiauto version of the Secret Service) on order, but have been waiting for months.


79 posted on 10/20/2016 5:26:38 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Boomer One

I want to get a CZ PCR next year (I am over my gun budget for this year)


80 posted on 10/20/2016 5:28:30 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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