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To: Vince Ferrer

The ONLY thing I trust this admin to do is to “miscalculate”.

I really don’t understand the dynamics of this HIGHLY confrontational undercurrent threatening to become an overcurrent between the US & Russia. What in bloody hell do whatever elements of the US gov’t in charge of this particular piece of Kabuki theater expect to gain?


45 posted on 10/11/2016 10:13:38 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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The globalists hate Putin because he wants Russia to have an independent set of policies both domestic and international. In most cases, his policies make more sense than our western policies nowadays.

Russia would only launch nukes at North America and western Europe if they detected a credible threat of invasion of their territory on a large scale. A few special ops people in a border area wouldn’t trigger it.

Therefore we can only expect a nuclear war if NATO invades Russia. It would be foolish and suicidal to do this, and there is no obvious pretext for it. If the globalists behind the scenes decide the next step is to bunker down for ten years and outlive a radiation storm, then they will try to precipitate this war.

As some have said already, this sounds irrational at first hearing, but these are evil people with a long-term agenda for world domination. Their real reason for destabilizing the Middle East and provoking the refugee stream is to place greater stress on the fabric of our societies so that more authoritarian rule can be justified. They also figure it will swing the balance of power as the grateful refugees vote for the parties that let them in.

We have no rational reason to be enemies with Russia. I am not a big fan of Putin, I think some of his methods are crude and that he can’t always be trusted. But at the same time, he has decided to stay out of the globalist death march to oblivion and that makes him considerably smarter than our leaders. We should hope that Trump is elected and that these two men can forge a better understanding (which will include some limits, Putin should not think he can exploit the situation).

As for the globalists, the more senior of them are a law unto themselves and I think any reasonable legal analysis will show that they are committing treason. They are trying to govern our countries for their own personal gain, and whitewashing it with issues that justify their intervention such as the phoney climate change scare.


47 posted on 10/11/2016 10:26:21 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Pray for enlightenment and true justice in these times of mass delusion)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
What in bloody hell do whatever elements of the US gov’t in charge of this particular piece of Kabuki theater expect to gain?

I have no idea, and that fact has been an obstacle to me seeing war with Russia as a possibility for a long time. The American people don't gain anything, and could lose a whole lot. Strategically I don't see that the US gains much, they are no longer a superpower.

And with nothing to gain, at least from my perspective, I keep thinking that these incidents that are building up are accidents, or Russia provoking us, or something. Because as cynical as I am about politics, it just seems crazy to take the leap and believe that our government is risking a war with a nuclear power, even trying to provoke it. Yet when I look really really deep, it seems to be the US provoking Russia, not the other way around. And we have been doing it since the Bush administration.

48 posted on 10/11/2016 10:44:30 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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