Posted on 08/31/2016 5:49:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee
Rather interesting that Democrats are emptying the prisons right now.
BOOKbump ping
If we do get to shooting, I would not want to be connected to the United Nations in any shape, form or fashion. I also would not want to be seen as being connected to the leadership levels of any police or military force. These are the people that I place high on the Choice Target List.
If you are wearing a uniform and have to stand up when your superiors enter the room, take it easy. You are at the very bottom of the List. I am only interested in cleaning out the “suits”.
The “suits” are the ones who will decide if this becomes a shooting war or not.
Conservatives own 200,000,000 guns and a trillion rounds of ammo. If we become violent you’d know it in a heartbeat.
So, if Hillary does win (hope not) and does what you say to the second amendment (pray not) than law abiding citizens like me will not obey and we will fight. When fighting starts it might begin on an immediate small scale similar to Unintended Consequences, but I believe whole States and even counties within states will reject those laws. Than even within law enforcement and the military some will not obey. If after the start of escalating violence with law enforcement trying to confiscate weapons shot and killed, judges and politicians preemptively shot, government buildings occupied and destroyed, if after that the courts and federal government fails to reverse course and instead doubles down and declares martial law and calls up the military, than the CWII has begun.
I believe one third of the states will defy the federal government. I believe States like California will have half of the Counties not enforcing gun confiscation. I believe the military will be in conflict and will either refuse to follow orders or will become ineffective in putting down armed resistance if not a military coup to take out the tyrant administration. If the military fails to regain constitutional order, obeys the tyrants order to shoot armed citizens defending their God given rights and freedom, than you have a full on civil war with whole sections of the military defecting to States that are second amendment defending. From that basis you have the makings of command and control of armed resistance and the shear volumes of the armed populace will overwhelm the tyrant army and tyrant LEO and in short order the administration will fall. It is easy even in this technological world to shut things down. Power, fuel, energy, communication, are all weak infrastructure and a few well determined armed men can bring everything to a standstill. Jets dont fly with wholes shot in them or with no pilots. Tanks and APCs dont role without fuel. Somewhere in between the tyrannical federal government falling much of the country would experience outages. It would be bloody and short, but a small minority of armed America dwarfs all the armed government agents, military, and LEO on the planet combined, from patriots still living and breathing and armed within Americas borders.
The failure of conservatives and the wimps in the legislative branch to PUSH BACK against the left’s disregard of the Constitution has emboldened them. They now believe their goal of a socialist tyranny is within their grasp and they WILL NOT gently join all the previous iterations of their failed ideology on the ash heap of history. It’s just one way HOW things could (will?) go to hell if Clinton wins.
Sounds a lot like what happened at Pearl Harbor.
My Dad always believed Roosevelt knew an attack was coming and deliberately did nothing to stop it. He believed Roosevelt needed an excuse to get in the war, and unless the damage was serious enough, he couldn't get the American people to rally around going to war.
In his defense, he had been advised by the military that torpedoes would not work against the ships docked there because the harbor was too shallow and air dropped torpedoes would hit the harbor bottom. (Turned out the Japanese had planned for that.)
We know that the British had broken some of the Japanese coded messages and especially one detailing a planned attack. A lot of people think it is inconceivable that Churchill would not have told Roosevelt, and therefore it is thought that Roosevelt was deliberately allowing the attack to justify US entry into the war.
So yes, what Lincoln appears to have done does sound similar to what Roosevelt is believed to have done in World War II.
It has become disconnected from the Natural Law foundation upon which this nation's government was originally based.
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 5 of the Constitution is often used to say that States are prohibited from producing currency, but the whole and entire clause says that Congress shall have power...
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
An argument could be made that this doesnt specifically prohibit States from coining money. It clearly gives Congress the right to coin money, but it doesnt expressly prohibit States from doing so.
I do not believe that FedZilla will tolerate such a thing for one moment. Their power structure is totally dependent upon phoney money by Fiat, and they will regard with maximum threat level, any effort to get out from under their phoney money scheme.
I have long felt that any effort which does not somehow deal with the currency warpage resulting from the Keynesian Malthusians currently exploiting it, is not going to succeed.
The National Banking Act of 1863, signed by Lincoln of course, established a national currency. It also treated other currencies differently for tax purposes, effectively killing all other forms of money in our country. Until then, currency was issued by states, and even more so by banks and other local institutions. I own a nearly 200 year old book that includes the then-current exchange rates among different local/private currencies and foreign coins in the fledgling United States.
The leftists have polluted the country to such a degree that dying to preserve Liberty is far from the worse thing that can happen.
For it is a number (sum total, enumeration) of man [kind]...
An accounting of souls, their order of business, be it with God, or mammon.
The king of Salem ("peace" which is rooted in wholeness, completeness) was MelchiTzedek, "*my* king is righteousness". His name says who/what he is ruled by. The "order" of Melchizedek is his order: how he conducts his business, his manner of doing things. His king is righteousness, and tzedakah is charity which is rooted in righteousness. It is *this* order of business, speech, conduct in which the Messiah is a priest forever. Axiomatic. Says what he means, means what he says. Honest, sincere, gracious, charitable in all things. This is the ideological framework of one whose "king" (rules to live by) is righteousness.
Those on the "other side" would thus decare by their manner, speech, business dealings and so forth that "my king is wickedness". It's how they choose to conduct themselves. Who their "king" (rules to live by) is = who they are.
Souls, livelihoods - how they obtain a paycheck - think butler and baker. Both in jail, but one is restored; one is hanged. Both caused some offense, but one offense did not reflect the character, whereas the other offense was just more of the same old same old. Therefore, each according to his interpretation.
The answer to the mystery in Revelation is in those concepts somewhere. In Torah the reading is Parshat Ki Tisa. On that note, in the verses about the counting of heads for the census and the atonement of souls, the phrase "all who pass among those who are numbered" is written twice. It has a value of 666. Too much to write about the root words and where they lead, but the point is it is a phrase that describes an enumeration of persons, of souls.
There is much in the Jewish commentaries about this business of "How does a coin atone for a soul". A coin is physical, a soul is spiritual. So how does that work, etc. Fascinating stuff. See the midrash about Moses and a coin of fire.
Twenty is the age in which to pursue a livelihood (Pirkei Avot 5:22), so the coins come from the givers' *pursuit* in life. The order/manner of that business and what effect giving that coin had would be like the quantum conundrum about observation determining the properties of an object. Not so weird after all. When Pharaoh observed, one came alive, one became dead. You want the universe to give you a dead cat, it'll give you a dead cat. Each according to his interpretation. :)
SSNs are required by the gov in order to work. But what are those people doing when they are "at work"? The love of money being the root of all evil... What will their souls choose to embrace? Who/what is their king?
So there we go. I have long asserted that the birth of FedZilla started with Abe Lincoln, but a lot of people resent it when I say that. The evidence indicates it is indeed true. *THAT* is the nexus point in history where the founders vision started going wrong.
It also treated other currencies differently for tax purposes, effectively killing all other forms of money in our country.
The Rulers want no challengers. They want sole control over monetary value. Of course, people probably felt safe because the currency was backed up by Gold and Silver back then.
Until then, currency was issued by states, and even more so by banks and other local institutions. I own a nearly 200 year old book that includes the then-current exchange rates among different local/private currencies and foreign coins in the fledgling United States.
That must be a fascinating book. Am I to understand you correctly in that individual states were issuing currency up until 1863? I knew they had done so prior to Union, but I didn't know the practice continued afterward.
The book is in storage for family reasons, so I cannot currently check details, but it's mostly a reference for business in that time period. However, at least some states were still issuing or using state currency in the 1820s. I would guess from context that most currency came from state-chartered banks rather than from the states themselves.
The book is in storage for family reasons, so I cannot currently check details, but it's mostly a reference for business in that time period. However, at least some states were still issuing or using state currency in the 1820s. I would guess from context that most currency came from state-chartered banks rather than from the states themselves.
In my mind I see those guys all running for the flags of their fathers. No natural born American citizens here!
I was wondering if bank issued notes would be regarded as issuing from the authority of the state.
Anyways, we are stuck with the Fiat currency dollar controlled by the zero-intresters. The currency question is the biggest difficulty I see in weathering a financial collapse.
We really need a money system with which they cannot tamper.
Well, there's always barter between friends and neighbors...
(Actually, the past few years have taught me at least that about the only societal organization with any credibility at all outside of immediate family are those "friends and neighbors"....and maybe not all of them.)
Phony as a three dollar bill? Nope. All real, although FL is just before the Civil War, VA is Confederate, and NC is 1866. Not taken from my memory, just from Internet searches.
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