I’m responding to everyone at once because there was a lot of overlap in questions. Thank you for taking the time to comment even if you think I’m disingenuous.
To be clear, I am strongly advocating for deportations. I am trying to build bridges with people who might not agree because I think we need to persuade people to vote for Trump or else ALL Americans are in for trouble. The only way I’ve ever been able to persuade anybody on such a heated topic is if I earnestly try to see things from their point of view and acknowledge their concerns.
This post was originally made on the liberal Reddit/Politics forum. After the Thought Brigades relentlessly downvoted it into oblivion (so that no one would see it), the Thought Authorities removed it entirely and refused to restore it when I politely inquired.
I’m new to social media but felt I had to do something as my civic duty. Sorry about the bold/italics thing. I wrote the essay myself based on my own research after I realized that most of our media has been egregiously distorting the truth and that most of my relationships were still fooled and looked at me like I was crazy.
I stand by my assertion that overall immigration policy (both legal and illegal) is critical. To just focus on one misses the forest for the trees. The big picture is that overall immigration policy (since the 60s) appears to be a deliberate attempt to undermine and transform American society (even according to official government reports). Overall immigration needs desperately to be slowed down.
To reiterate, many immigrants are decent people who might pay taxes and not technically be on welfare, but still receive benefits in excess of their taxes paid. Think about someone living in an apartment with 3 children. That person might pay a small amount of property taxes via their rent payments, but they are not paying the (national) average of $12,300 per pupil per year.
To those who might be offended at me lumping all immigrants together, I reiterate that I am speaking about averages and not individuals.
I’m just trying to politely get the word out and counter all the propaganda.
Regards,
Thanks for responding. Welcome to FR.
To those who might be offended at me lumping all immigrants together, I reiterate that I am speaking about averages and not individuals - FTC
Lumping all immigrants together (or all women, or all Blacks, or all Whites or all of any demographic) is how we lose the argument. The reality is that not all are the same of any demographic.
Our side wants people to be seen as individuals ... individual responsibility, individual reward for individual effort, etc.
The other side wants demographic groups to be lumped together. Blacks might vote 80-20 Democrat. Those of Mexican ancestry might vote 65% Democrat. Vote fraud occurs when we concede the entire demographic and allow blue precincts to report 99% or 100% Democrat when in reality that is not the way the individuals voted.
The same is true in other areas besides voting. The Left benefits and wins when people are lumped together.
National Cohesion?
From the immigrants perspective, the last thing they want is for their kids to become Americanized. To immigrants that means becoming like Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber.
Most immigrants dream of owning their own small business. Every landscaper dreams of owning his own landscaping business. Every IT consultant dreams of owning his own IT consulting business. etc. But thanks to the media and dominant culture, immigrants don’t see owning their own business as becoming Americanized. They see pop culture as Americanized.
re: family reunification is highly abused.
The Catholics, Evangelicals and Mormons are strong supporters of family reunification because they are theologically pro-family. Turning them to be anti-family will have serious unintended consequences. I’m not talking abortion here... I’m talking the safety net.
You just might survive here.
Hey, “tl;dr” means too long; didn’t read.
Can you summarize? Brevity is the soul of wit.
re: are highly likely to support big government.
This generalization is totally unfounded. Most Immigrants come here to work. Most do not come here to take welfare.
Take Mexicans as a sub-group. There are at least 5 distinct types of Mexicans politically. In a heavily Mexican working class suburb all 5 groups have voted for the small government slate of candidates when small v big government was the choice presented.
PAN president Fox (Andy Garcia in the movie FOR GREATER GLORY) is a libertarian leaning Republican type.
PAN president Calderon is a Santorum type social conservative. Libertarians and Social Conservatives make up the PAN party which has held the presidency of Mexico 2 of the past 3 times.
The current PRI president is a Chicago Democrat; Not a Bernie or European socialist. The PRI is the epitome of the corruption Mexico is known for. Prior to President Fox, PRI held the presidency and the Mexican Congress ever since the 1920s. PRI has two types of people:
1) People who seek power and personal wealth through politics.
2) People who just want to be left alone, avoid hassles and thus choose to go with the flow and not fight things like the PAN people do.
PRD is the 3d Mexican Political Party. Its people are Bernie and European Socialist types. They are Occupy Wallstreet and BLM on steroids. They are idealists. They have never won the presidency. They always vote against. They can be convinced to vote against PRI, against the corruption of the Clintons and Chicago Democrats.
From what I can see, Indians are politically split, just as Mexicans are. The current Indian president is a Santorum style social conservative. Past presidents have been corrupt PRI style Chicago Democrats.
Remember, on several occasions voters of Mexican ancestry in heavily Mexican areas have voted 100% for the small government slate when given a clear choice. (In those elections the lone Hispanic who voted for big government was a Puerto Rican lady on welfare.)
You don’t get it do you?
If you are here ILLEGALLY you are not a decent person nor are you an immigrant. You are a criminal
Enforce the laws. Limit incoming immigration until we can figure out who is who. Build the wall strengthen border security
You are correct when you say the overall immigration policy has been a program designed to move America to the left by importing people who know nothing but socialism and big government.
This has been going on for a half a century which is why we must stop ALL immigration now or we will forever lose what it means to be an American.
If this sounds extreme, I will assure you it's not. We are about to be outnumbered in our own land folks. There is no new world to sail to and start over. Time is running out or worse yet it may have already run out. We will know for sure November 9th. The may very well be the last election in the United States as we know it.