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Is the Elite Media Failing to Reach Trump Voters?
Slate ^ | July 28, 2016 | Isaac Chotiner

Posted on 07/31/2016 1:56:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

And in their rush to condemn Trump, are journalists betraying their values? Glenn Greenwald says yes to both.

The release of hacked Democratic National Committee emails last week was followed on Wednesday by Donald Trump’s invitation to Russia to find and release Hillary Clinton’s missing emails. Trump has since claimed that he was being “sarcastic,” but some believe that he is all too happy to rely on hacked materials to further his campaign for the White House—and doesn’t appreciate the national security implications of Russian intelligence’s alleged breach of DNC servers. Others believe that Trump’s more isolationist foreign policy ideas, such as retreating from NATO, should be discussed rationally and that the DNC hack is being used as a cudgel with which to attack anyone who isn’t sufficiently hawkish on Russia. The hack, and its political and geopolitical implications, has also occasioned a debate about whether and how the media ought to cover leaked—or in this case stolen—information.

To discuss these issues, and others, I spoke by phone with Glenn Greenwald, the co-founding editor of the Intercept. Greenwald, who lives in Brazil, is best known for his role in reporting on Edward Snowden’s disclosures of National Security Agency material; that work, which appeared in the Guardian, won a Pulitzer Prize....

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: handmaidens; hillary2016; liberalmedia; partisanmedia; trump; whites
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If only you backward racist, hayseed, hick, crackuh, redneck, truck drivin’ bible clingin, tabacee chewin, inbred , honkeys weren’t so stupid and listened to us Hillary would be our new god.” -LIEberal media.


21 posted on 07/31/2016 2:17:11 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem is the “elite media” is so far up Hill’s patootie that they’re no longer visible to us.

Good thing there’s enough room in there...


22 posted on 07/31/2016 2:17:47 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Bogie
-- The elite media not even reporting the real news. --

When it comes to politics, that's not their job. Their job, politically, is to deliver elections. When the truth goes one direction, and the "election delivery" mandate goes the other direction, the "election delivery" mandate prevails.

Most of the conversation in Slate is gafflebab garbage, ambiguous, self-justifying twaddle. But this remark, by Greenwald, is interesting in that it sates a fairly obvious truth - he probably thinks it's profound.

One of the things that is bothering me and bothered me about the Brexit debate, and is bothering me a huge amount about the Trump debate, is that there is zero elite reckoning with their own responsibility in creating the situation that led to both Brexit and Trump and then the broader collapse of elite authority. The reason why Brexit resonated and Trump resonated isn't that people are too stupid to understand the arguments. The reason they resonated is that people have been so f***ed by the prevailing order in such deep and fundamental and enduring ways that they can't imagine that anything is worse than preservation of the status quo. You have this huge portion of the populace in both the U.K. and the US that is so angry and so helpless that they view exploding things without any idea of what the resulting debris is going to be to be preferable to having things continue, and the people they view as having done this to them to continue in power. That is a really serious and dangerous and not completely invalid perception that a lot of people who spend their days scorning Trump and his supporters or Brexit played a great deal in creating.

23 posted on 07/31/2016 2:18:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the oldest fables around...boy cried wolf.


24 posted on 07/31/2016 2:21:10 PM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is the Elite Media Failing to Reach Trump Voters?

Trump voters don't give a crap about the "elite media".

25 posted on 07/31/2016 2:22:20 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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26 posted on 07/31/2016 2:23:54 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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27 posted on 07/31/2016 2:24:52 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’s already happening. My wife and I stopped watching television years ago.


28 posted on 07/31/2016 2:25:03 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I actually read that. Through the looking glass for sure.


29 posted on 07/31/2016 2:25:35 PM PDT by Stentor (Every tim I guess he forgot e I read "Trump needs..." I release the catch on my Browning.)
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To: vikingd00d

http://www.worldtribune.com/report-7000-turkish-forces-surrounded-incirlik-air-base-overnight/

And the media simply refuses to report anything about this!


30 posted on 07/31/2016 2:29:47 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: Doogle

“Trump voters no longer listen to the media.”

Exactly.

In return the media gets shriller and shriller trying to garner attention.


31 posted on 07/31/2016 2:31:47 PM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: odawg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCMyHJJrdDw&feature=youtu.be


32 posted on 07/31/2016 2:31:50 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: Cboldt

“You have this huge portion of the populace in both the U.K. and the US that is so angry and so helpless that they view exploding things without any idea of what the resulting debris is going to be to be preferable to having things continue, and the people they view as having done this to them to continue in power.”

Yup.

When Trump is prez, Romney, Ryan, McCain, Obama, Grahamnesty, Hillary, McConnell can all look right in the mirror as to the reason why.


33 posted on 07/31/2016 2:38:22 PM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: Cboldt

http://www.unz.com/article/the-show-must-go-on/

This is the best I’ve read in a long time.


34 posted on 07/31/2016 2:39:17 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: Doogle
The premise of the headline is wrong. The elite media has already reached Trump voters and have been discounted. They haven't been able to persuade Trump voters, but rather have incited them.
35 posted on 07/31/2016 2:42:22 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Good point.


36 posted on 07/31/2016 2:45:38 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Claims he was being sarcastic”

I listened to it. He WAS being sarcastic. The very context proves it was sarcasm. These people are convinced they can sell anything if they all agree on repeating the same story.


37 posted on 07/31/2016 2:48:18 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

journalists and values should never be used in the same sentence. like hilLIARy and ethics, morality, truth, competence,etc.


38 posted on 07/31/2016 2:49:58 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Almost all the media has become unwatchable. Sometimes I go days without watching any of them. The elite media is reaching Trump supporters, but instead of convincing us not support him, they are getting us even more PO’d than we were before with all their blatant Clinton bias, and their blatant lies.


39 posted on 07/31/2016 3:04:07 PM PDT by euram
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To: Bogie
Thanks for that link. I started reading, noticed it ran 308 pages (more in moment), then read on to the end - which turned out to be more like 8 or 9 pages. The rest of the pages were comments! Phew!

It is a good piece. I agree with some of the critics, in that I don't think Bataclan (and now Nice) were the same sort of synthetic event that the Koran Burning Pastor was. I think terrorism exists, and that not all of it is "by design of some string puller."

Seems to me that certain members of the NWO Powers That Be, like Merkel and Obama and etc., acknowledge the terrorist event, then go into a blast of incredible (unbelievable) rationalization of their preferred public policy.

I did find the part about 90% of Afghans and Pakistanis not knowing about 9/11, that is thought provoking. I'm not ready to accept the contention as true, but the flip side of it by the example of the Koran Burning Pastor was pretty darn good. Why would the press and the NWO make an issue of this dude? Why turn him into part of the act?

At any rate, thanks again - I enjoyed that piece thoroughly.

40 posted on 07/31/2016 3:10:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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