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MA: Drunken Teens Attempt Break in. 1 Shot, Homeowner Charged
Gun Watch ^ | 19 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/24/2016 4:06:49 AM PDT by marktwain

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From the Homeowners viewpoint, he faced three hostile people attempting to break into his home. He had called the police. Three to one id disparity of force.
1 posted on 07/24/2016 4:06:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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he faced three hostile people attempting to break into his home. He had called the police. Three to one id disparity of force

I have a Class A Massachusetts License to Carry. You are quite correct about disparity of force.

But I don't think that MA is the only state where you can't shoot through the door.

2 posted on 07/24/2016 4:17:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The polls can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)
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If you can’t defend it, you don’t own it. This applies to your home, car, purse, wallet...even your body if a woman. If you must comply at the point of a gun, you don’t own any of these things though you may believe you do.

And if it is the case where you cannot legally defend these things, you need to move. Period.


3 posted on 07/24/2016 4:19:20 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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What they need to do is send some drunk teens to the homes of politicians late at night.


4 posted on 07/24/2016 4:25:03 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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The liberals have hog tied the citizen. You are unable to protect yourself and if you do YOU will be the one in jail not the perp


5 posted on 07/24/2016 4:29:55 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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“What they need to do is send some drunk teens to the homes of politicians late at night.”

Guaranteed to get some dead teens.
They live under different rules than we do.


6 posted on 07/24/2016 4:35:08 AM PDT by Tupelo
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Correct on shooting through the door. Wisconsin has a castle law and the jerk/asshole/evil intruder has to be inside.


7 posted on 07/24/2016 4:37:11 AM PDT by irish guard
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I'm baffled. Three intruders and the homeowner can't use force after they broke his window? He's dead if it reaches three to one in his house.

What jury would ever convict him?

8 posted on 07/24/2016 4:40:29 AM PDT by grania
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MA voters gave us John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, etc.
I wouldn’t care to have my fate decided by the likes of them.


9 posted on 07/24/2016 4:44:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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The liberals have hog tied the citizen

This is particularly the case in MA. The rich “Limousine-Liberals” in Boston passed laws MANY years ago to protect their spoiled progeny against legal recourse.

Even car theft, in MA, is considered ‘ unauthorized use of an automobile’.


10 posted on 07/24/2016 4:44:47 AM PDT by Paisan
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Joe Horn shooting controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy


11 posted on 07/24/2016 4:45:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Legitimate self defense. It’s irrelevant that the kid thought he was at the home of a friend.
MASS has rejected a very basic principle of human nature.


13 posted on 07/24/2016 4:52:03 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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Kind of a threshold doctrine. They need to be past your threshold and inside the house or apartment to be considered an immediate threat. Not surprising that’s the law in Massachusetts. But unless I’m mistaken it’s the same in many if not most other States. Texas is a famous exception. But on the other hand, they only just began permitting Open Carry this year. So every jurisdiction is different.


14 posted on 07/24/2016 4:52:44 AM PDT by katana
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Shooting THROUGH a door means not being sure of your target and what is beyond.
Being scared is not an excuse. Men in combat are scared, but they still control their situation.


15 posted on 07/24/2016 5:01:47 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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In MA, the law states the gun must be locked up at all times. WTF is the point of having a gun if it is locked up?

I presume this law also applies to the bodyguards of the politicians/s


16 posted on 07/24/2016 5:03:35 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: irish guard; Jim Noble

North Carolina also. Plus he better be facing you .
If it was determined he was trying to get away you might have a legal problem.


17 posted on 07/24/2016 5:11:59 AM PDT by Vinnie
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The only time one should shoot blindly through a closed door is if said door is to one’s bedroom and one is in there. Otherwise it is better to wait until one gets a clear view of the target, or perp. As this man is about to learn the hard way.


18 posted on 07/24/2016 5:18:54 AM PDT by sport
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In the people’s Republic of New Jersey, this home owner would be in Deep Sh1t.....we are trained to be good little victims here.


19 posted on 07/24/2016 5:24:10 AM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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In MA, the law states the gun must be locked up at all times

Section 131L. (a) It shall be unlawful to store or keep any firearm, rifle or shotgun including, but not limited to, large capacity weapons, or machine gun in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user. For purposes of this section, such weapon shall not be deemed stored or kept if carried by or under the control of the owner or other lawfully authorized user

We report, you decide.

20 posted on 07/24/2016 5:35:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The polls can have a strong influence on the weak-minded)
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