Posted on 07/10/2016 11:13:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Pulling a gun on a cop when you’re a suspect in an armed robbery is not “the rule of law”. You people defending this dead criminal make me sick. Try to remember we all live in the real world, not your theoretical la-la land. Would you be happy if Philando had shot the cop?
Maybe you shouldn’t rob convenience stores and pull guns on cops. Too deep for you ant the rest of the Philando-supporters?
I wish I could get a streight report on the the facts of this incident instead of being forced to re-read reports several times like Dyer’s which covers hese points in a simplisric fashion and ignores the important details.
The officer involved was following procedure
There an APB on a local armed robbery what did that report say ? (type of vehicle used in escape, description of perpetrators)
When the officer called in his intended resposnse what did he say ?
Instead we get wandering speculation and attemtps to address issues not directly related to the incident. Including a pass on their governor reinforcing Obama’s inflamatory remarks.
Thank you.
The police officer could well tell the driver of the car that there was a broken tail light, even if he suspected him of robbery.
The driver wouldn’t know the officer was on edge, if he, the driver, was innocent.
I saw two men in pictures of the robbery, not a woman, so right now I doubt the authenticity of the supposed radio traffic.
Assuming matters were as the woman said in her narration, she did the best possible thing by recording video.
She wasn’t allowed to reach over to try to stop her boyfriend’s bleeding - she would have been shot also.
An ambulance was already on the way.
It’s too hot to argue with criminal-loving idiots today. As a life member of the NRA, my idea of gun rights does not extend to armed robbery suspects who pull guns on cops. Maybe yours does. Get pissy with that.
Attempted to refute; big difference.
The enemy is dangerous and committed, so I'll try to be discreet with the facts revealed.
I live in a city of well over 200,000 with some neighborhoods more dangerous that others. Even the safer neighborhoods contain or are bordered by pockets of criminally inclined chronically unemployed "families."
Political Correctness has infected every corner of our cities in the last 16 years, at least since the massive "religion of peace" attack.
I also live in a homeowners association community.
My immediate sub-neighborhood reflects the general population ethnicities. We are all alert, having been victims of stolen mail, breakins, stolen cars, recent car hijackings and students mugged for their cell phones and other valuables walking home after school.
There are a half dozen of us who are retired, and home most of the time, and in communication when we see strangers in the alleys alone or in pairs wandering aimlessly around the neighborhood. Most of the time on bicycles, but occasionally in motor vehicles.
Until earlier this year, we could call the police, provide a description, including race, to check, specially during the school year, when presumably all under 18 are presumed to be in school.
Are all of these "explorers" residents of our Homeowners group? I have no idea; I have not met all the 600+ members of our "unit." It is almost certain that most suspicious wanderers are not.
All that changed this year. Now, when the strangers are spotted, we must file a report with the police first, giving information about ourselves, a description of the subjects, but forbidden to mention race or type of clothing. How soon after that there might be a police response (if any) is impossible to determine.
What would you think is the rational response to the new "procedure?" I'll leave that to your imagination.
More to the point of your challenge, what is certain to me, is that when those police reports (if any) are forwarded to the County, the State and ultimately to the FBI, filtered by God knows how many more "politically correct" hands, how useful can it be?
Busy work, a "sensitive" environment, not offensive to any privileged group, invasive to the crime victims, and totally useless as a crime fighting tool.
I can close by saying that I am not surprised that you're confused. I sure am.
If I understand your point, you stand by "At least for the last 20 years, at the federal level, race has been forbidden in crime reports and statistics."
If so, what we have here is a failure to communicate. But, this not being a movie, and me not caring, I bid you adieu.
I also have seen that excellent video, but unfortunately it is NOT on YouTube that I could find. I do not do Facebook nor am likely to do so any time soon. I saw it on a friend's cell phone.
If you think that it is on YouTube, a link or name for that video sure would be appreciated. I usually save useful videos to share with family, friends and Freepers, of course.
I sure hope you are alone. Although trained to the extent possible, it would take a robot to avoid adrenaline and warranted nervousness.
I remember an account, a couple of decades ago, of a "holier than though" rabid anti-gun nutjob (we all know the type, "why can't you shoot him in the leg? or shoot the gun out of his hands?" level of stupid) politically connected who got a "ridealong" with a sheriff deputy one night.
The car had to respond to a dicey scenario involving a drugged up nut with a gun in the middle of the night.
Short version, she went ballistic and started running around shouting, Shoot the sunofa****h already!!!" while dodging bullets.
Reality truly sucks.
Always, conveniently, the recording begins with the result of any provocation that might have provoked the shooting.
This has been the case since the famous Rodney King event.
When we lived in the burbs, MrT5 and I belonged to a group that did neighborhood watch, etc-and we both did a couple of ridealongs on graveyard shift. Even in that burb, many miles from the city limits and a low-crime area, answering a call for a suspicious person or an alarm going off at a business was beyond creepy-made the hair on my neck stand up, as I tried to look in all directions at once, mind focusing all senses into warp drive.
That said, the cop who shot that guy sounded totally hysterical and unhinged-more like the reaction of a civilian who was threatened-that is not a temperament able to handle a situation like that well at all-and apparently, he didn’t. I’m not judging, since the facts are still not known, but I am making a personal observation...
I see a problem here in the checking of the ID (the alleged reason for the stop).
I as wondering if anybody but me had thought of that possibility.
The only reason the nation and media are so willing to accept the girlfriend’s account as the truth is because it feeds what we have determined is the narrative of the day: white cops are out to kill black people.
If the suspect had been white and his white girlfriend had live streamed THE AFTERMATH of the events that led up to his death, there would be no news story. Dallas would not have taken place. Five officers would still be living. All the people who attended the march would have been engaged in normal day-to-day activities that evening instead of finding themselves in the middle of a frightening melee.
White victim (possibly perp?), killed by a (white/black/brown/Asian cop)? No story. Nothing to see here, people. Move along.
"sagar" weighs in...
Ther's no problem at all. The cop wants to see your ID, you tell him it's in your pocket.
His call, not yours. And he WILL have instructions.
Someone mentioned to me that here in Chicago the cops decided they were going to start putting vids up of some of the worst crap they walk into, just so all the cry babies can witness what these brave men and women face all damn day.
Thank you for being a voice of reason on this case, I’m laughing at comments that site the druggie chick as the definitive account of what actually happened. SMH
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